Yamaha NS10 monitors

[gkowal]

hey guys i wanted to buy monitors and i posted like 3 post already but i still can`t decide... i came up across some post that YAMAHA NS10 monitors are good.. and i know they aren`t being produced anymore..but there are few ones used i can get and i was thinking is it worth it? to get them? or should i just get something else...? I WANT EVENT 20/20bas ones but it`s too much expensive.. i can spent about 500$ for 2 monitors...and i want them to be active..cause i don`t want to get an amp and having it effecting the real sound of the monitors... what should i do what should i do?.. i will need them for TRANCE music production.. THANKS GUYS and i really feel stupid posting so many posts with the same Questions.. SORRY GUYS..

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

NS-10s are an "acquired taste" -- not unlike the "acquired taste" of eating cockroaches....

I'd save up for Events if I were you, better yet, Mackie 824s, or better still, KRK V8s............


Bruce

 

[CyanJaguar]

An acquired taste? NO

An essential commodity? YES

as for krks? I dont think so. One too many bad reviews

 

[crawdad]

When I was writing in Nashville, I went to a bunch of different studios--pro top of the line places. Every one had a pair of NS-10's. They may have had Genelecs or another high end model too, but the Yamahas were everywhere. If your mix sounds great on ther NS-10's, it will sound great on anything.

 

[LooneyTunez]

as for krks? I dont think so. One too many bad reviews

Cyan,

Have you listened to any KRKs yourself? Don't tell me that you buy into the review thing, especially about something that is so subjective. Heck, I remember reading an old post by our beloved BlueBear (before he got the V8s), and he was not a fan of KRKs either. I guess he changed his mind, because I think he swears they them now. But, I won't speak for him. I myself was a bit reluctant about the KRKs myself until I got a pair of V6s home and realized what a joy they are to mix on. For me there's no guess work involved with these monitors...What I hear is truthful sounding to me, and that allows me to bring everything into focus much faster than the guessing games that some monitors make me play, and mixes are translating perfectly to other systems as well. I think some people in the industry are just used to a certain monitor sound, and if anything deviates from that they give it a bad review. I'm not saying that KRKs are for everyone at all...my point is that you need to leave the option open because you may be surprised.

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

as for krks? I dont think so. One too many bad reviews

You obviously haven't mixed on them or possibly even heard them to make such a statement Jag........... they are excellent.

You don't hear with words, you hear with your ears!



Bruce

 

[CyanJaguar]

the ns10ms reveal flaws that some people cant stand to hear in their mixes. If you make it sound good on those though, it will sound good anywhere else. Just make sure you have a pair of bigger speakers to double check with.

 

[CyanJaguar]

about the krk v8s,

yes, sound quality is pretty much subjective(how subjective is arguable)

but I saw a review on the net where in the less subjective categories, the v8s still fell way short

I think it recieved a 4 out of a possible 10 in the imaging and dynamics category. I wonder how objective a reviewer has to be to hear left right separation or transients, or even bass level.

 

[charger]

I mixed half an album on the KRK "K-ROKs". I don't know if these are comparable the the K6s or K8s, but they were definitely comparable to

a) a steaming pile of dung, and

b) a large cardboard box surrounding my head.

I was on someone else's rig, and was stuck with them. Near the end of the second day we called around and got a friend to loan us his old NS-10s for a couple days. The difference made the mixes usable. Of course, I'm somewhat used to the bizarre sound of the NS-10, but still, those KROKs had some boxy-ass midrange!

The truth is, when your mix sounds good in the NS-10s (and you can check that the bass isn't out of control on a home stereo), your mix sounds good. Which doesn't say anything about the accuracy or joy of using them, because they are unflattering as all hell... it's just the way things turn out.

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

All I can say is I posted comparison mixes of a tune I mixed on Event PS6's and the same tune mixed on KRK V8s - there was a significant difference, and guess which pair took a lot less effort to work with!

But........ as always....... YMMV........

Bruce

 

[CyanJaguar]

Bruce,

I've been meaning to ask you about that comparison. I lost the link. Please give me a link.

I should also mention, a guy was mixing on ns10ms and wanted something better so he bought a pair of event 20/20. Some time later he came back complaining that his mixes were not translating cos the monitors were too forgiving, so he went back to good old ns10ms

The krk mix you did was better, but I remember saying something like the voice had a tad too much midrange over the event mix.

 

[CyanJaguar]

gkowal,

here is a mix I did on the ns10ms. THe low end is suspect but I think the rest is pretty decent

 

[charger]

Cyan, sorry man, but ouch. That mix is painful. I suspect you were mixing it for a really long time at a stretch, and you became immune to the harshness. Either that or you didn't turn them up loud enough. I wouldn't want to hear it on NS-10s, I can tell it would be ouchy. Another thing I've noticed, and this is something I hear in your mix, is that reverb seems to disappear a little on NS10s. So I always mix less reverb than I want with NS10s, because it's always way more when you listen elsewhere. Anyway, you have too much reverb on this mix too, which is my pet peeve. And that bass sound is way too crispy. Make it round and juicy!

 

[Uladine]

I've heard that NS10's make pretty good kick mics, too.

 

[mcr]

right ... and I use my SP C1 as in-ear monitors

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

I've been meaning to ask you about that comparison. I lost the link. Please give me a link.

KRK V8 mix

Event PS6 mix


Bruce