Windowz sucks

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vestast said:
BTW - The Mac OS X is based on the Linux kernel developed by BSD.
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The Mac OS X kernel is NOT related to Linux. It's very much a Mach microkernel-based system in every way.
 
Hey Progger! Fellow teenager here!

I can handle fine the fact that you won't pay for MS stuff. I understand you're upset at their business practices.

I won't pay for Nestlé either, or Gap, Esso, Coca-Cola or McDonalds, because of their marketing techniques and exploitation of the majority of the world who do not have the financial freedom we have (http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ )

The difference is that I don't sneak into the shops and lift their products.

You wanna know why???

BECAUSE STEALING LOWERS ME TO THEIR LEVEL, and all of a sudden I lose my moral gravitas when I write to them telling them my opinions.

When you steal, you're just another whiney brat who wants something for nothing and will clutch at any little argument to try and justify their criminal behaviour.
 
vestast said:
http://developer.apple.com/macosx/architecture/

Hover over the darwin picture. Darwin is based on Free BSD another flavour of linux.....
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Dude, stop before you really make a fool of yourself.

Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris and others are different flavors of UNIX. That means FreeBSD doesn't have much in common with Linux - the are only offshoots of the original Unix spec.

FreeBSD is actually a descendant of NetBSD which was another Unix implementation that pre-dates Linux.
 
i'll be honest, i didn't have time to read that double copy microsoft disclaimer that somebody posted on the first page, but from what i got out of these posts is that you CAN install microsoft windows on 2 machines: and that is what he did, didn't he?

Maybe i'm being nieve, but sometimes I like Microsoft's little blanket over me. I like how the majority of people use the same system so i can come to places like this to ask questions about my system. Although windows has some problems, linux is not the best OS either, neither is OS X.

As far as microsoft being a huge business, more power to em i guess. They found a demand and people are willing to pay or their stuff (well most people.... wink wink. I'm not jumping on the moral bandwagon here, as i have stolen my fare share of mp3's as a teenager. I just think 90 bucks is a reasonable price for what you get.
 
I'll take this opportunity to say, Hello, Bluesboy!

I LOVE thread! A little moral lesson to all who read it.

John
 
brzilian said:
Dude, stop before you really make a fool of yourself.

Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris and others are different flavors of UNIX. That means FreeBSD doesn't have much in common with Linux - the are only offshoots of the original Unix spec.

FreeBSD is actually a descendant of NetBSD which was another Unix implementation that pre-dates Linux.
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Thanks for pointing out that they are different flavors of UNIX not LINUX. But I disagree with you that they have little in common. I'm not sure if your relating to the GUI of each different system. Obviously then you are right. A mac's gui does not look like Redhat's gui, as Solaris's GUI does not look like...well anything really.

But a ps or an ifconfig -a command on Redhat, BSD, Solaris and as far as I know OS X all give the same results...That is they are all looking for the same information ..

Here is a link showing how each of these systems ultimatly tie in to each other.

http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html
 
So, with CCRMA, there's one thing I'm not clear on: do their images of Redhat come with the kernel alterations, or do I still have to do that myself?
 
From the CCRA site:

You can choose. The Planet CCRMA kernel is the best choice if it runs well on your hardware. Otherwise install the RedHat kernel with capabilities (the RedHat kernel includes a partial low latency patch so all is not lost

Also:

This assumes you have RedHat 7.3, 8.0, 9 or Fedora Core 1 installed and that you are using the grub boot loader (it is the default).

Hope that helps..
 
vestast said:
Thanks for pointing out that they are different flavors of UNIX not LINUX. But I disagree with you that they have little in common. I'm not sure if your relating to the GUI of each different system. Obviously then you are right. A mac's gui does not look like Redhat's gui, as Solaris's GUI does not look like...well anything really.

But a ps or an ifconfig -a command on Redhat, BSD, Solaris and as far as I know OS X all give the same results...That is they are all looking for the same information ..

Here is a link showing how each of these systems ultimatly tie in to each other.

http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html
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Sharing shell commands does not mean they are the same thing. Hell - dir works in both Unix and DOS!

They have little in common because most software would need to be recompiled on different Unix variations.

Just look at all the different versions of Mozilla:

http://www.mozilla.org/releases/#1.6

The BSD version will not work on a Linux box.

You actually have it all backwards as far as the GUI goes - XWindows was a standard so that all Unix GUI's would share the same system calls.
 
brzilian said:
Sharing shell commands does not mean they are the same thing. Hell - dir works in both Unix and DOS!

They have little in common because most software would need to be recompiled on different Unix variations.

Just look at all the different versions of Mozilla:

http://www.mozilla.org/releases/#1.6

The BSD version will not work on a Linux box.

You actually have it all backwards as far as the GUI goes - XWindows was a standard so that all Unix GUI's would share the same system calls.
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We can go on and on, but what's the point ?

We've both agreed that they all share a common history, and yet we're still arguing that they are/aren't similar ?? The point I was trying to make was that Linux/BSD whatever isn't as confusing/scary as a lot of people make it out to be..O.K. ?

Let's both just drop it, agreed ?
 
noisedude said:
Hey Progger! Fellow teenager here!

I can handle fine the fact that you won't pay for MS stuff. I understand you're upset at their business practices.

I won't pay for Nestlé either, or Gap, Esso, Coca-Cola or McDonalds, because of their marketing techniques and exploitation of the majority of the world who do not have the financial freedom we have (http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ )

The difference is that I don't sneak into the shops and lift their products.

You wanna know why???

BECAUSE STEALING LOWERS ME TO THEIR LEVEL, and all of a sudden I lose my moral gravitas when I write to them telling them my opinions.

When you steal, you're just another whiney brat who wants something for nothing and will clutch at any little argument to try and justify their criminal behaviour.
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This is at least appropiate.

D
 
bluesboy2003 said:
I have to say that as a Debian fan, I'm sad to see that CCRMA decided to choose the RedHat flavor only.
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Here's one for you :)

Agnula

My first exposure to UNIX was AT&T System V. Years later, my first Linux distro was RedHat 5.2, which used a SysV type config file system. I've tried a goodly chunk of the major distros out there, but RedHat seems to be the one I'm most comfortable with. I'll probably stick with RH 9 for a while, until Fedora matures a bit, and the latency issues with the 2.6.x series kernels are ironed out.
 
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O.K. - I've been thinking about how to word this for a while now.

I've done some more reading on Free BSD tonight, and I'd like to apologize for my statements earlier. It looks like I made some wrong statements about Linux and BSD.

It does appear that they have little in common, other than some commands, shells, whatever. While I've used freebsd very little, I do use Redhat and Solaris on a daily basis, and I guess I figured I knew it all...:(

So again, Sorry I came off sounding like such a fool.

DD
 
hmmm, been running xp for about 2 years now and it crashed twice. Once was with a bad driver istallation and the other i'm assuming it overheated. It's actually more stable than my mac (os9) rig. Yer not doing something right sonny. My analog "rig" is the least stable but it sure sounds purty. Why don't you try a non personal computer hard disk based recording system until you get the hang of it.
 
..i just thought it was funny that people are coming down on this kid for stealing a copy of Windows when Gates stole the GUI idea from...Xerox? Or Macintosh? i forget. It's late.
 
MikeyPatriot said:
..i just thought it was funny that people are coming down on this kid for stealing a copy of Windows when Gates stole the GUI idea from...Xerox? Or Macintosh? i forget. It's late.
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So because someone copied an idea and made it differently, it's ok to steal that product?

It's ok to steal a PRS Singlecut guitar because Smith stole the idea from Gibson?

That concept won't get you too far.
 
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