Which Mic. to Thicken Vocals?

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If you go to google video they have the whole classic albums series in its completion at various places...Ive downloaded them all.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
I like how they did it on the tracks "Because" by the Beatles or "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...just track a couple of other takes and pan the 2 weakest ones to the left and right.
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good good good, very smart suggestion. sometimes it's easy to forget that multiple vocal takes add a ton of thickness to a line.

I've used that before, sometimes just alternate takes, not done while listening to the first one (so not really intended as doubled tracks) are just magical, even magical in their places where they differ in the performance completely.
 
Best thing is they dont limit the files to ten minutes...YT sucks when it comes to that.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
I like how they did it on the tracks "Because" by the Beatles or "Smells Like Teen Spirit"...just track a couple of other takes and pan the 2 weakest ones to the left and right.
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And if memory serves, they didn't use *any* compression on this (will have to consult my books, because it could have been a couple of the tracks on 'Abbey Road' I'm thinking about).

I'm a Beatles' freak (hundreds of books, 'unreleased' tracks and so on), and one of the things I'm trying to do is to try to emulate Geoff Emerick's reverb sound a la 'Sgt. Pepper'. Funny how plugins that are specifically designed to emulate this (such as 'Fab Four Virtual Instrument' partly designed by Beatles engineer Ken Scott) don't really do the job.

Thanks to everyone here for all of the suggestions; I really appreciate them.
 
gvdv said:
And if memory serves, they didn't use *any* compression on this (will have to consult my books, because it could have been a couple of the tracks on 'Abbey Road' I'm thinking about).

I'm a Beatles' freak (hundreds of books, 'unreleased' tracks and so on), and one of the things I'm trying to do is to try to emulate Geoff Emerick's reverb sound a la 'Sgt. Pepper'. Funny how plugins that are specifically designed to emulate this (such as 'Fab Four Virtual Instrument' partly designed by Beatles engineer Ken Scott) don't really do the job.

Thanks to everyone here for all of the suggestions; I really appreciate them.
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Im pretty sure that they didnt use any plugins on that beatles track.
 
I would go with the K2 and get in close for proximity affect to help fatten that voice
 
Good suggestion about the proximity effect, moresound; wouldn't have thought about that.

Thanks
 
ez_willis said:
double track the vocals and duck one way below the first track.
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ez_willis said:
i didn't say it wouldn't help at all, i said it wouldn't help as much. your voice has inflections and combined with timing imperfections it will fatten the vocal track up more than just copying the original and sliding it over a bit.

or not. whatever. i really don't care. go buy a new mic. that'll do it.
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dkelley said:
sometimes it's easy to forget that multiple vocal takes add a ton of thickness to a line.
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lol. that's hilarious.
 
You might also want to try a shure SM7 in a well tuned vocal room or with packing blankets hung around just right, maybe some foam hung behind the mic. do a little experimentation.
 
Yes the SM7 does have great room rejection it's the nature of that beast, but the room can still be modified to help the mic some.
Helps some mics better than others that's why you should always experiment.
 
Big Kenny said:
didn't I already give you a 4040?
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lol. nope. i'll accept the sm7 in place of both. we may have argued about the sm7's connection to michael jackson, but it may have been someone else. i've argued with so many people about so much shit at this place i often confuse myself.

still got that t-bird though, and i'm getting deathly close to parting with it.
 
I have a thin terrible voice--the only way I can stand to hear it on lead vocal is to record 4 tracks. I mix the best one loudest and the others panned L-C-R at lower levels. It is a lot of work to try to match the main vocal 3 more times, but it is the best method for me. The mic choice is not usually a major factor--I gotta use this method on any mic I have tried.

hope this helps
 
clivus said:
I have a thin terrible voice--the only way I can stand to hear it on lead vocal is to record 4 tracks. I mix the best one loudest and the others panned L-C-R at lower levels. It is a lot of work to try to match the main vocal 3 more times, but it is the best method for me. The mic choice is not usually a major factor--I gotta use this method on any mic I have tried.

hope this helps
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Good to know.

Thanks.
 
ez_willis said:
lol. nope. i'll accept the sm7 in place of both. we may have argued about the sm7's connection to michael jackson
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Funny story about why they used it for him...I read this in "Make Mine Music" written by Bruce Swieden...that MJ is extreemly unprofessional and couldnt stand still for a single session and his foot tapping kept getting on the tracks...so they used the SM7 because the proximity effect minimalized the noise he made moving his feet.

Theres a list of much better artists that made hit records using the SM7 too.
 
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