Where's my WaveData?

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My C-drive is full. It is an 8.5GB drive, and 4.96GB of the space on that drive is devoted to a folder called “WaveData” which is associated with Cakewalk Pro Audio 8, which I cannot do without. So I endeavored to transfer these files to the 13.5GB D-drive.

After copying all the files in C:\ProgramFiles\Cakewalk\CakewalkProAudio\WaveData to a folder I created on the D-drive, I deleted everything in the C-drive WaveData folder and directed Cakewalk Pro Audio 8 to look for these files in their new location on the D-drive (as instructed in a reference book on Pro Audio 9; a reference on Pro Audio 8 being unavailable).

Nevertheless, whenever I open a Pro Audio music project, I am informed that the audio data cannot be found.

When I open D:\Rick – Data\Pro Audio Files\WaveData, all the files are there. But when I look in that file via the Pro Audio application, it is empty!

When I copy all the files from the D-drive WaveData file back into their original folder on the C-drive, the audio can be found by the application – even though the application has been directed to look for it elsewhere.

My question is this: Whazzuuuuup!!!?
 
sipleybeck said:
< snip > even though the application has been directed to look for it elsewhere.

My question is this: Whazzuuuuup!!!?
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How are you directing the application to look elsewhere?

Have you reset the default directory in Audio Options and/or Global Options (not sure what the PA8 menu structure looks like)?
 
You must have saved your old work files as .wrk instead of .bun, eh ? :)

Here's what you need to do...

Put the whole audio back to it's original folder first. Copy them back to C:\ProgramFiles\Cakewalk\CakewalkProAudio\WaveData

Open one of your saved .wrk file (which contained audio track). It's should open the audio tracks as well. Save it to .BUN instead of .wrk.

If in case you still want to save to /wrk, then once it's opened, move the reference WHILE the file is opened. Make necessary setting on Tools --> Global --> Folders (Wave), point it to your new audio folder (eg. D:\Rick – Data\Pro Audio Files\WaveData).

Re-save the .wrk file. Do the same procedure forl all your old .wrk files. After all is done, then you may safely delete the wave data in C:\ProgramFiles\Cakewalk\...

Hope it helps
;)
Jaymz


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Jaymz,

You are quite right. I did not change any file extensions. I saved them “as was”.

I believe this is what I did:

1) Copied and pasted (from the folder Pro Audio installed on the C-drive to a folder I created on the D-drive) the .wrk files for all the projects I created.
2) Reset the default directory.

3) Began to copy everything else, starting with the Backup folder Pro Audio had installed (C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Pro Audio\Backup) - which appeared to have nothing in it. Strangely enough, when I pasted it to the D-drive it transferred everything associated with Pro Audio. How convenient! (I thought) There was only one problem; hence, this thread.


I am very eager to try what you suggest. Let me see if I understand.

I already have copies of everything on both drives, so I need to:

1) Open a project I created.
2) Save it as a .bun file.
3) Repeat steps one and two for all my other projects.

If I want to save them as .wrk files instead, I need to:

1) Open a project I created.
2) Reset the default directory WHILE the project is open.
3) Save it as a .wrk file.
4) Repeat steps one, two, and three for all my other projects.

Should I do the same thing with the .wrk files provided by Pro Audio?


The WaveData folder containes 1,402 items. I do not find anywhere near 1,402 .wrk files. Am I to infer that each .wrk file references multiple .WA~ files?


Could there be a problem from having applied PA9 techniques to a PA8 application? Observations:

PA 8 and PA9 both have .bun, .cal, .grv, .mid, .set, .syx, tpl, and .wrk file extensions. [No confusion there]

PA8 has .CakewalkStudioWare and .CakewalkWindowLayout; PA9 has .csw and .cwl. [Not too much of a stretch]

PA8 has .WA~; PA9 has .wav. [Same thing, or no?]

The .rm, and .rts file extensions in PA8 are roughly analogous to the .asf and .ra extensions in PA9. [????]

.ply (PA8) seems suspiciously like a .set extension (PlayList). [What’s up with that?]

PA8 lacks PA9's video capabilities and has no forebears to .avi, .mp3, .mov, and .mpg PA9 file extensions [????]
 
sipleybeck said:
1) Copied and pasted (from the folder Pro Audio installed on the C-drive to a folder I created on the D-drive) the .wrk files for all the projects I created.
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Is this a mistake, or did you really mean you copied the .wrk files?

You need to be copying the wave files to your D: drive - that is what contains your audio data. It doesn't make much difference where the .wrk files are located.
 
In PA8 there are two places where wave data is refered to.
Tools-Global-Folders, and Audio-Advanced-'Data'. I don't know why there are two, but the second one directs that version to the song or project data folders.
Don't know why you would need to re-save the stuff to get it to do that though. Hopefully it's just a 'path' problem.
:)
Wayne

Just saw Dach's post- very true. Once you move the data hogs, you'll have plenty of space on C, and the prog won't be interrupting the data flow off D -probably a goog thing.
 
dachay,

I copied and pasted the .wrk files one at a time (there were only about twenty). I copied the .wrk files because they carried the names I gave the projects I created.

Then I looked in the Backup folder.

It appeared ampty, but I thought I would copy it anyway - I didn't want to leave anything out and it was the top, left folder in the Cakewalk Pro Audio folder.

(I hope memory serves)

I copied the Backup folder. Then I pasted it to the folder I had created on the D-drive, and when I did it pasted 1,402 items, each with a .WA~ extension.

I suppose I could have done it differently, but this is the way I remember it.
 
Wayne,

True. Deleting the .WA~ files freed up about 4.94GB on the C-drive. But PA couldn't find the audio on the D-drive, so I had to transfer it back.

I was afraid that if I didn't transfer it back, and in the meantime dropped something else on the C-drive (a Word or Spreadsheet document, for example), there wouldn't be space for the wave data and I wouldn't be able to open the projects.

I haven't yet tried Dach's suggestion. I must admit, I am still a little confused about what to do.

dachay, can you elaborate, or reiterate, addressing some of the questions I had regarding your post?
 
Sipelybeck
What does you prog say in Tools-Audio-Advanced-Data?
Unless I am forgetting something, this is all I had to change to get PA8 to steer the waves to the other drive.
Try making a new folder in 'D', copy the waves to it and switch the above 'Data' box to it. You should be able to run with either the original or the copy versions depending on what's in that box.
(Unless that IS what you were already doing.:rolleyes:

Wayne
 
Wayne,

Bullseye!!

The Tools>Audio Options>Advanced Data “Directory” field showed “C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Pro Audio\WaveData”.

I replaced it with “D:\Rick - Data\Pro Audio Music Files\WaveData”, deleted everything in “C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Cakewalk Pro Audio\WaveData”, and was able open my projects, WITH AUDIO!!! I hope you realize the immensity of goodness you have brought into the world. I have been struggling with this problem for a long time. Thank you, thank you very much.


jaymz,

I’m sorry; I didn’t even try your suggestion. The Tools>Audio Options>Advanced Data approach seemed quicker and easier, so I tried it first, but I appreciate your help every bit as much. It is wonderful to know there are people with similar interests, who will help others simply for the joy of doing so; without some hidden agenda. I hope I will be able to help someone else as I have been helped time and again through this forum.

Thanks to everyone who conspires to aid others.
 
I thought maybe you didn't get it from my previous post. Glad to help.:D
Now, if I may alos suggest, get rid of that hudge path: “D:\Rick - Data\Pro Audio Music Files\WaveData”. You don't need all that.
You can just make some folders on 'D' like 'Joe's Band', then some sub folders like 'Song #1', 'Song #2' and/or rename them later 'song name here'.

Welcome to little miss Good House Keeping.
Later.
:D :D
Wayne
 
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