What do have between your guitar and amp?

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i'd like to say a blonde a beer and a joint but the old lady won't let me have the blonde.
i'm with bruce of blue bear,if you can't do it with your hands and a cable you need to practice more not waste money on effects that just drive up your insurance rates and do nothing for your skill.

only mho
 
jimini2001 said:

i'm with bruce of blue bear,if you can't do it with your hands and a cable you need to practice more not waste money on effects that just drive up your insurance rates and do nothing for your skill.

only mho

and that "ho" is just plain bunk..... you use whatever it takes to sound 'good', whether it's your 'fantastic' monster cable or your velcro'd suitcase full of knobs... That kind of thinking borders on going out into the woods, and reaping your own lumber to make your own guitar, and milling your own metal to make your own strings...

For every guitar player that just plays "au natural", I can easily provide another that has as much appreciation from their listeners, and uses something as simple as a phase 90 or a bad horsie morley...etc.....or a pile-o-stuff attached to their tether.


Personally, I like straight into a V4 ampeg, but a proco rat never hurt anyone either.. I like the whammy wah too.

well shit...while we're at it...I love the H outta my Roland GR-
33...:D

hhmmm...no wireless people....eh?
 
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64Firebird said:
I have a J-Station too, but I only use it to record. You just can't beat that digital out thing. The best part is that they have a sim of my amp (blonde bassman) and it's very good.

mmmmm bassman mmmmmm beefy
 
I like to think of my effects as colors. Sure I can get my point across with black & white, but why should I limit myself?

Besides, just because they're all there doesn't mean I turn 'em all on.........at once!:D
 
Used all sorts of multieffects and recently a DG-Stomp. Nothing compares to a straight cable from guitar to amp. I don't know how to describe that but I loose something when there's a third party in between
 
I feel that guitar effects are like make up. A little can be a good thing, but too much makes you a clown.

If you've got the talant to do without them, good for you. But, Jimi Hendrix used all of them and sometimes all at once and I think it's safe to say that he was one very talanted player.
 
64Firebird said:
I feel that guitar effects are like make up. A little can be a good thing, but too much makes you a clown.

Ain't that the truth!
I got a Digi 2120 which I use very, very lightly.
 
mixmkr said:
hhmmm...no wireless people....eh?


Kind of.
I run sound for my band and use wireless to ensure a good sound at soundcheck. It's a decent AKG, but it still degrades my tone a bit. However, it's good enough for live and it is worth it for the freedom.

Generally I prefer going direct to the amp using a cable. Usually no effects, not even reverb. Sometimes some slight reverb or delay.

I prefer getting my tone from my fingers, not effects. Which is not to say that effects are bad. More effects just result in more work for getting the perfect tone. I commend those that put forth the effort to use the tools. I'd personally just rather have good raw tone. Which is why I prefer SansAmp to POD and why I got rid of my 2120 but kept my Mesa/Boogie Quad.
 
I'm from that "less is more" camp. I love my straight tone, and anything you stick in there just diminishes it. I've become a staunch proponent of "hardwire bypass", and I won't buy any effect pedal that doesn't have it. Even then, I never stick a pedal in the line unless I'm using it to record a specific effect.
Live, the only thing I stick in there is a Dunlop 535Q WAh.

And I have to agree w/ Lopp: I don't want 9 jillion knobs and all kinds of options. If I do, I end up spending too much time tweaking. I like a piece of gear that does one thing, I does it well.

Aaron
http://www.voodoovibe.com
 
I've used a wireless so long that when I do plug in, I break something.
 
definately lazy...

had a triaxis and a bunch off effects ones... I spent aLOT more time on tweakin' then on playing... and yes effects degrade the tone...

Guhlenn
 
It doen't seem to hurt Eric Johnson, Jeff beck, Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, etc... The list goes on and on.

The only guy I can think of that doesn't use anything is Angus Young.
 
sure... but they use nothing with a battery... anyway what i ment ( and you're being a hard-ass cuz you knew this right) is that it degrades your original tone to a certain degree... you may even like it you may not. but it does affect your tone (appart from the obvious effect it's giving..)

or do you still disagree...? oh and there are some famous guitar players using marshall mg and valvestate... someone famous using it DOES NOT qualify it as better...

Guhlenn

IMHO ofcourse...
 
I'm not trying to be a hard ass. I just think that the word "degrade" is a little harsh. Changes the tone yes, but degrade?

BTW EJ does ues batterys. I've read where he is very perticular about which brand he uses. D Allman was the same. He only used one kind of battery and he would drain off most of the power from it to get his sound.
 
Most of the guys that use lots of pedals (Eric Johnson or Steve Vai are perfect examples) also use complex signal routing schemes that can remove the pedals from the chain entirely when they aren't being used. And others don't. Everybody has a different spin on how they get their tone.

But...

Putting a pedal inline WILL diminish your tone. Compare plugging straight into your amp to playing through a Crybaby. You will hear a difference (a very noticeable difference!). If I buy a great sounding amp, and then put something in line that alters the tone, I call that diminished. I guess others don't mind so much, and that's fine too. Wouldn't it suck if EVERYBODY sounded like Eric Johnson?

Aaron
http://www.voodoovibe.com
 
Aaron Cheney said:
Wouldn't it suck if EVERYBODY sounded like Eric Johnson?

Yes, but it wouldn't be any better if everybody sounded like Herb Ellis.
 
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