Very Noisy

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I am looking for any advice I can get on this issue. I have been recording vocals with a CAD GXL2200 and it's been sounding great. I am using sonar and so far everything has been clean. No Hiss, hum, pops etc... I bought a Behringer MDX 2600 composer pro and plugged it in after my mic/pre and before my sound card. As soon as I plug the power cable for the behringer in I get all kinds of noise. I start hearing noise from moving my mouse and all kinds of weird crap. I have tried to rule out ground looping but to no avail that doesn't seem to matter. Is it just the Behringer being a piece of crap or is it interference etc? Should I waste more money and buy a "hum eliminator" type product? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Effects?sku=150452

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am pretty lost at this point. The only thing that changed in my setup was just adding the compressor.
 
Get rid of your POS soundblaster, which it sounds like that is what you have. And the Behringer. Berrys are notorious for being very noisy. I haven't used that model, so maybe its not as bad as I think, but I'd take a gander at it and say that it is the Berry that is causing the noise.
 
Well... I never hehe. Anyway's, good call. Yes i have swapped out 2 different SB's soundcards and no difference. Having said that, why would a SB cause this problem assuming that it isn't just the Behringer compressor? Should I pick up a EMU 0404? That's kind of what I was thinking of geeting anyway's. Would that be better than a SB and why? Just trying to figure out why this is happening and what will solve it. Again, any more help is appreciated :)
 
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Well... I never hehe. Anyway's, good call. Yes i have swapped out 2 different SB's soundcards and no difference. Having said that, why would a SB cause this problem assuming that it isn't just the Behringer compressor? Should I pick up a EMU 0404? That's kind of what I was thinking of geeting anyway's. Would that be better than a SB and why? Just trying to figure out why this is happening and what will solve it. Again, any more help is appreciated :)
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because a sound blaster card costs like 20 bucks. they're cheap POS (to steal a phrase from tourettes....tourettes?? ironic that I steal POS from you).
 
Barring all the other things mentioned, a compressor compresses the dynamic range by squashing down louder sounds. You use make up gain to bring the average level of the audio back up, so it could just be that you are now bringing up the really quiet background noise you never noticed out of the noisefloor. Is the mouse noise the mechanical noise of your mouse (scraping, clicking) or like digital noise? I think there's a compare/bypass mode in the behri, have you tried bypassing the compressor effect?
 
Get rid of the SB! I had one.. I went with a EMU 0404 and it blows the SB away! I only use the EMU for a soundcard. I go into my computer via firewire.
 
Thanks for all your input. :) I appreciate the help... I decided on a couple things after some more testing. First of all the Behringer composer pro is very noisy. And there is a power feed when using any SB. It only goes so far on the SB and when you start adding any electric devices it goes south real quick.

I went to the guitar center and picked up the EMU-0404. Got rid of the compressor also. Had all kinds of problems installing the EMU. The driver CD would hang on 38% like never fail fudge hehe. This card is not very good on installation and if you don't know that much about computer's and are not tech savy on a pc then you may have all kinds of problems hehe. Anyway's I install the EMU and it immediately killed my NIC card. Bam !! No more net hehe. No biggy. Uninstalled every card in my system and re-slotted all pci cards. Still hung @ 38% on install of drivers. Got my NIC working and DL'd the latest drivers from EMU/Creative. Rock N' Roll. This bad boy is working now. I am loving that the DSP on board allow's me to EQ slightly on the way in to record on Sonar and I can compress/limit with no overhead. Loving this card so far. A slew of features and no noises.

Well I just wanted to share my experience with you all and say thanks again for the help :) It is greatly appreciated...

One more quick question...
I have a rolls PB23 phantom adapter for my condenser mic. When I plug into the EMU it does not have enough recording volume. Should I go with a Mic Pre-Amp http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Signal/Processors?sku=182482
to get my levels set or just a mixer since I already have +48 on the mic. I had this one in mind... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=631239

Thanks again in advance hehe :)
 
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