Twistin in the Wind

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Heya folks- Check out this tune and tell me if you hear any problems; are the vocals too sibilant? Do the keyboard parts distract from the song? Is the stereo spread about right? Any help or comments would be appreciated.

The link http://ultratheband.com Scroll down to "twisting in the wind" Thanks all.


Strat
 
Stratomaster said:
are the vocals too sibilant? Do the keyboard parts distract from the song? Is the stereo spread about right?
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Yes the vocals are too sibilant and I'm sure it's worse because of the 96kbps encoding.. The keyboards didnt distract....The mix sounds mono imop... I heard no stereo spread at all... Nice song.... Nice performance, that lead around 3:17ish contained a few brain darts also..

nice song though, I liked it a lot..

sam
 
real nice tune.. I didnt even realize it was on repeat until a few listens later..
 
the mix is in stereo...but a very narrow width. Actually, much closer to mono. The mix also had the sound when you collapse a poorly made stereo mix down to mono...as a lot of the "stuff" disappears, and has a hollow sound to it from frequency cancellations.

a much wider, full fidelity mix would improve the first impressions of this song a lot in my mind.

"brain darts"....is that where some notes REALLY jump out at ya...? That's what I heard.
 
I liked the song. It was well written I thought.

One comment on the mix is that it seemed that there weren't many dynamics in the lead vocals. Were they pretty heavily compressed?

I liked the "Hangin by a thread" answer backs at the end with the high reverb. Nice touch.
 
inspired by sami

Thanks for the listens guys;

Sam-your right about the stereo spread its almost non-existant-I didnt want to pan the main acoustic off to the side-I was going to rerecord that acoustic with my new oktava mc012-I'll try to brighten it up and move it around. I'll look at those "brain darts" (lol good one) really its just one note that jumps out I think. The bit rate may be hurting this-it sounds pretty warm as a wave file.


mixmkr-thanks for the ears -I'm definetely going to go back and work on this-with no drums or bass I shouldn't be screwing this up so bad.Surprised I didnt get ragged for the wind chimes lol. Btw the "keyboards" are a little yamaha thing that has its own speaker and most importantly "portamento"!!!.I actually miked the keyboard speaker to a marshall through a wah wah pedal-I have no idea how to play keyboards heh.

Badgas-Thank you for your time and the nice comment!

TripleM-No the vocals weren't heavily compressed though I did use the "tape sim" effect in cakewalk 9-which is like a compressor-It has an evening effect that I like-I'll go back and A-B to make sure I didn't crush the life out of them-thanks.


I wasn't going to bump this cause I thought it was kinda rude but on second thought-not acknowledging those who listened is even worse-so thanks for those who commented and even you folks who listened without comment-It's all good! Got 4-5 new ones coming down the pipe, you'll be hearing from me soon enough...


Strat
 
hmmm i posted and it didnt move the thread go figure....
 
I thought it sounded real good.
I'm listening on my crappy computer speakers though.

Nice singing and songwriting.
I dig your guitar playing too.

Did I hear a dobro in the beggining?
Sounded cool.

I think the keys fit in perfectly.

Nice stuff.

Best to you,
Pete
 
I like this song. Just the right amount of tension in the melody, rhythm, and voice. I agree that 128 would have sounded better than 96, would've shown it off better.
To be honest, I didn't pay much attention to stereo spread or sibilance, I was too taken with the quality of the writing and singing...which I would think is a good sign.
Good acoustic guitar sound. I'm very interested in methods used by many here to mic acoustics, I'm hearing some great sounds in a lot of songs.
Still mulling over the keyboard parts...jury's still out to me. First impression was that they didn't quite fit, but maybe just take some getting used to.
Excellent writing/playing! I'll leave to others to comment on technical aspects.

Mark
 
Good song, thought it might benefit from a stronger bass line as you seem to be using some open strings and quite subtle harmonic changes, nothing too rhythmic but I reckon with those chords you could do some interesting bass movements which would bring out diffent aspects of the chords by moving up and down 4ths and 5ths.
This is just my opinion overall I liked it , guitars and lead vocal sound good to me
 
Once again thanks guys-

Muzeman-very nice comments-I appreciate it-no I've never played a dobro-this song I used my beloved Simon&Patrick Luthiers acoustic (which is a canadian subsidiary of seagull I believe-any of you canadians ever heard of this guitar?) and I capo'd at the 4th fret-the other guitar is a strat which is kind of mimicing the vocal melody. If you're interested check out the song called "river Song" from our site-I use the same acoustic-matched with banjo and bowed! electric guitar. Thanks for the listen.

MKG-Glad you liked it-I'll tell the singer you appreciated his work-he's used to me picking it apart heh. The acoustic was mic'ed with a 57 I usually get it up pretty close to the guitar neck aroung the twelth fret or so-this acoustic is very bass heavy-it takes massive eq'ing to get the boom out of it-like I said earlier I'm going to redo this and try to get a better sound-check back in 2 weeks and it might sound different. thanks for the keyboard comments-I'm glad that some people like em and some arent sure-the other guys in the band thought i was nuts when i was recording them-but they grew to like them eventually.


Matt303-sounds like you gave it a good listen I thank you-I wanted this song to be simple and pure-like the way it would sound if we played it live-most of our other stuff had tons of overdubs and took me weeks to mix-it was nice having this simple song that was relatively easy to record and mix. But you've got my mind turning with your suggestions I must admit. Thanks for your time!

Strat
 
i agree that the stereo field could be more taken advantage of. heavier panning of the sparse kind of 'airy' sounds and effects in the backdrop could open up the track a little, other than that, everything sits well, nice job.
 
local's!!!!!!!!!

cool, i love the athen's scene, i may have seen you guy's before and just didn't know it. do you know any of the guy's from grasshopper(i think they are called "women" now?) haven't been over to athen's in a while though.

no input on the mix, but i loved the song!!

thank's for sharing this man. im gonna listen the other tune's you have up there .

peace

rick
 
you already got all the tech stuff...thats not my thing anyway lol man the harmony at "standin on the ledge"...loved that its sorta understated but ...whats the word....."creamy"..maybe?....i did notice the low vox part"swingin/swayin"..was sorta lost in the acoustic part..but hey listen to your stuff....then listen to my stuff.......then just tell me to shut up....lol.....excellent song.

jamal
 
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