Turning digital into analog?

[chessrock]

Ya know, Beck, you're kinda' dumb. Even for a psychopath.

You see, if you were ever to try and attack me, there would be all of this evidence right here on this board that could very easily be used to your disadvantage in a court of law. By announcing your intentions, you've basically made yourself a prime suspect. And as dead as this thread is, I'll bet there's at least a hundred witnesses to our exchange. You couldn't lay a finger on me without your little internet trail pointing straight to you as the perpetrator. I could sue you for the rest of your life's earnings (what meager amount it is you earn working behind the fast food counter), and you'd basically be my bitch for life.

On the other hand ... anything I do to defend myself against your attacks would clearly be in self defense. So basically, whatever I do to defend myself against a ruthless attacker who drove several hundred miles with the sole intent of assaulting me (leaving a ton of evidence behind him in the process) ... would be fair game.

But there's always a bright side. You could always plead insanity, and eventually receive your much-needed therapy. Then again, driving several hundred miles to meet up with your victim kinda' screams "premeditation," don't ya think?

Your only hope, my friend, would be to crawl back in to your pitiful little hole and carry on with your sad, sorry, pathetic excuse for a life. Which is such a shame, because I was so looking forward to meeting up with you for coffee.

 

[sdelsolray]

It has nothing to do with getting over anything or emoticons, and everything to do with people like you chronically ruining this forum. This has building for months if not years. The thread was already gone Sherlock. And what are you doing now with your post?

Chicago is just over two hours away from me. Either agree to meet with me or take your cowardly ass of the board. PM me with when and where. No it's not a threat, but this will not be resolved at a distance in text.

Half way? Hindsdale Oasis? Do they let you drive or will you be walking/riding a bike? Navy Pier -- you name the place. I get to the burbs on a regular basis.

Or we can keep a music theme -- Gand Music in Northfield? Guitar Center? I'm open to suggestions.

You and Bruce are going to stop with the flaming arrows one way or the other. You won't change my mind.

Get civilized on this board or get ready to discuss it with me in person. There is no other choice.

This isn't about recording anymore, but you started it so finish it with some balls.

Now that DJL has been banned, we should crown this guy the new king of pizzaz.

 

[travelin travis]

i only have one rep point and I'm cool with it.........actually if anyone wants it..........

 

[Beck]

Ya know, Beck, you're kinda' dumb. Even for a psychopath.

You see, if you were ever to try and attack me, there would be all of this evidence right here on this board that could very easily be used to your disadvantage in a court of law. By announcing your intentions, you've basically made yourself a prime suspect. And as dead as this thread is, I'll bet there's at least a hundred witnesses to our exchange. You couldn't lay a finger on me without your little internet trail pointing straight to you as the perpetrator. I could sue you for the rest of your life's earnings (what meager amount it is you earn working behind the fast food counter), and you'd basically be my bitch for life.

On the other hand ... anything I do to defend myself against your attacks would clearly be in self defense. So basically, whatever I do to defend myself against a ruthless attacker who drove several hundred miles with the sole intent of assaulting me (leaving a ton of evidence behind him in the process) ... would be fair game.

But there's always a bright side. You could always plead insanity, and eventually receive your much-needed therapy. Then again, driving several hundred miles to meet up with your victim kinda' screams "premeditation," don't ya think?

Your only hope, my friend, would be to crawl back in to your pitiful little hole and carry on with your sad, sorry, pathetic excuse for a life. Which is such a shame, because I was so looking forward to meeting up with you for coffee.

I can see you're trying. I'll even say an A for effort. But if your sword is as dull as your pen, I wouldn't get yourself in these situations if I were you.

You couldn't have read my post right above your last one. Either that or I'm giving you too much credit. But my posts are rather long and seem to go on and on - I know, so maybe it's not all your fault.

I don't drink coffee -- thanks anyway. Surprised, eh? I just have a natural, almost meth-like energy and spirit, but it's all substance free. I'll always be the last one standing. People like you and Bear can probably drive most people off this forum most of the time, so I know this whole thing must be troubling for you. But odds are after a time you're bound to run across a Scotsman, like me and then you're fucked.

Not that you will ever have to, but anything you could do to defend yourself physically is just plain futile and a silly idea really. Unless you have some Kryptonite lying around, I'm afraid you're shit out of luck. That's the only thing I can think of off hand that hasn't been tried.

Anyway, you're really missing the point. People on this forum meet all the time - take Jamfest for example. When was the last time there was a rumble at Jamfest, despite the personality clashes on the board -- I mean really.

I'm not afraid to meet and talk to any man. Spiders and tornados, oooh, now those bother me a little. Hey there ya go - we can sit down and talk, you can bring some arachnoids, maybe learn how to control the weather or something. That way you'll have that "break glass if needed" kind of confidence and won't be distracted by fear.

Seriously, the reason I don't mind meeting people in person is it actually has a calming effect in my experience, because you can see there's a person on the other side of that computer screen after all. I have always shown the utmost restraint and sound judgment in deciding whom to hit. Come on, anyone who enjoys talking as much as I do doesn't actually go around hitting people, because I don't have to. Unless I'm sparring with a friend, but even then if anyone gets hurt it's not on purpose.

Like I said to begin with here you didn't read my last post carefully so here are some key highlights that should put your mind at ease. If you can't remember anything else I've said in this thread remember the following, which I said previously:

"Your problem right now is you have crossed paths with someone who can dish it right back, will always call your bluff, will escalate way beyond your comfort zone (and follow through) and can speak bully fluently if need be to communicate in a language you can understand."

"…it's funny, someone called me psycho once before, but only once that I recall. It was in the 8th grade when I jumped on three rather big and mean classmates by myself who were picking on a new kid from England. His father was in the military and got shipped back to the states with his British wife and kids who had grown up in England. They were, pushing him, making fun of the way he talked and he was crying like a baby asking them please to leave him alone. I couldn't stand it, and ended up hitting all three of them hard - knock down drag out lips bleeding -- total mayhem. They reacted just like Bear, "Hey man, what the hell is your deal?" Like I started it. That's how bullies are though. They don't feel anyone's pain but their own.

I still don't like bullies, even if they are scrawny pencil-necked cyber-bullies that would just make me feel sick to my stomach with pity at the thought of actually hitting them."

So you see, you're safe. Feel better?

Keep in mind that I'm in the right here. I didn't start this. I was ambushed by a cyber-bully, Blue Bear, and you have joined him. Have I not made that clear that you and Bruce should stand corrected and apologize, to like a hundred people? Sure, I know that's not going to happen, but that's how I see it.

Bear has been playing the bully far to long. It's wrong for someone like me who can do something about it not to have done it sooner - I'm ashamed. I have been really busy - yeah, I know, excuses, excuses.

You can go to the cave and say anything you want about Beck. The cave is the cave. If I'm looking for trouble I'll go to the cave. But if here minding my own business and you jump out of the bushes like a common criminal, I won't just stand there. Be nice to people out here and they'll be nice to you. How hard is that? Problem solved.

We should meet though. You will see that I could break your legs if I wanted to, but also that I really don't want to and that my physical capabilities are tempered with a generous portion of tender mercies. We could go to Guitar Center or something, look around, and you'll be confused as hell because I'll seem just like a regular guy.

You'll try to smile, but your knees might get weak and you'll feel some nausea when I look at you, because people do say I have kinda "crazy other-worldly eyes" and I don't blink often enough. It may be something spiritual, supernatural I don’t know. But I’m directly descended from both Robert The Bruce and Nathan Bedford Forrest, so it’s probably just a physical characteristic – no offence intended if it seems like I am looking into you’re soul, as uncomfortable as it may feel. Come on - It'll be fun.

-Tim

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

Not only a psycho, but a psycho with an unjustifiable superiority complex... nice...

BTW - welcome to my ignore list.... I suggest you do the same, psycho-freak........

 

[chessrock]

You'll try to smile, but your knees might get weak and you'll feel some nausea when I look at you, because people do say I have kinda "crazy other-worldly eyes" and I don't blink often enough.

Hmmm. Maybe you should try some Visene, perhaps? There are plenty of liquid drop-based eye lubricants on the market. Allergies are common this time of year.

I think you over-estimate yourself, there, Beck. I live in a big city. I see whack jobs like you every day. Especially at Guitar Center. I'd probably just mistake you for one of the monkey boys working there and say: "I'm already being helped."

I'm not afraid to meet and talk to any man ... Seriously, the reason I don't mind meeting people in person is it actually has a calming effect in my experience, because you can see there's a person on the other side of that computer screen after all. ... We should meet though.

If you're such a man, Tim, then why don't you post your full name and work phone number for all here to see? All this "PM me" crap is kinda' panzy if you ask me. Put up or shut up, Beck. I expect a reply to this post with a full name and daytime work phone number for all to see. Do that, and I will contact you as you request. Otherwise, you're just a coward by your very own definition.


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[Beck]

Not only a psycho, but a psycho with an unjustifiable superiority complex... nice...

BTW - welcome to my ignore list.... I suggest you do the same, psycho-freak........

And I suppose your going to say "I hate you, I hate you!" next thinking it's a real zinger. Yes, yes, get on with it then (Yawn).

Ah, the old ignore list -- yet another way to make it easier to convince yourself you're always right without the truth mudding things up. And a brilliant way to run away from a discussion in which you find yourself overwhelmed and out of your league.

But as you wish. By the rules of war you abandoned the field. I accept your surrender and will give you full quarter and pardon.

It’s a shame though because I could tell you were just starting to like me and I really believe we could sit down and talk. I understood you - like talking to a friend from the old country in Celtic even. This is a breakthrough.

My Degrees are in Social Psychology and Criminal Justice (Summa Cum Laude, by the way).

Put it to music man - listen!

"unjustifiable superiority complex."

You could keep talking to your doctor and look at your medical charts, then come here and talk to me in this wonderful language of psychoanalysis. Me as the student of Pschlogy and you as the patient – I would never lord that over you either.

I do have a negative criticism though - nothing major. It shouldn't interfere with a successful bonding and lasting friendship between you and I that I see blossoming here.

Actually two criticisms. As beautiful as the above phrase is, sadly it is often used carelessly by sophomores because it sounds cool to people that don't know what it means. And as you may know the over-compensated-inferior (a better term) mimics a healthy productive outward state, though on the inside he is quite different than the truly well balanced individual whose confidence in himself can be shown to be reasonable by objective means.

For example, an outstanding pro football player who was always told he could do anything and was loved unconditionally, like my parents did with me. Or the proud graduate who has the accolades and honors to justify his confidence. Or the marksman who has the trophies, the producer with the gold record on the wall – you get the picture. These are all real and demonstrable accomplishments and abilities.

The novice will get these things confused, so be careful here. Not everyone who excels in many areas is mentally ill.

Secondly, say for the sake of argument I am a Psycho. Bruce, don't you think it shows poor judgment on your part to call a psycho a psycho? I mean isn't that a little psycho?

Not being a psycho I wouldn't know, but I've heard they tend to frown on that sort of thing and might do something… well, psycho in response.

So, either you don't really think I'm a certified psycho, or you are completely underestimating what a provoked psycho can do. Or you are trying to make amends in your own little way by secretly paying me a compliment from one psycho to another that no one but us will understand. – clever.

Let me explain.

After you first called me a psycho, I thought about it for a while, then felt a little down and inadequate because I'm not really a psycho (I only play one on TV). Then I started thinking of all the people in our history, who have been called psycho or equivalent at one time or another in their lives - Great musicians, artists, military commanders, revolutionaries, inventors, nearly everyone who stood out enough to get a paragraph in a history book.

Then I thought about it some more - Newton, Einstein, William Wallace, Cory Ten Boom, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Cher Bono, Grandpa Munster, Hansel and Gretel, Mel Gibson, Thomas Jefferson, Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln, Jesus, Billy Jack, Ted Nugent, Serpico, Jiminy Cricket, Babe the pig, -- my mind just flooded and I stopped counting.

So at this point the honest truth is Bruce, no I'm not a real psycho. Thanks for the encouragement. I'm just not there yet… But I aspire to be.

-Tim

 

[ryanlikestorock]

I just noticed this rep points section of the site because of this thread. Interesting...

It's human nature not to enjoy the company of everyone we meet. No matter where you go, there's going to be someone who isn't acting the way you'd want them to. What can ya do?

I'm mixing a record right now that I'm thinking of dumping down to 8-track in 4 stereo groups then doing the master from stems. I think it'll help smooth things out a little bit maybe.

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

If you're such a man, Tim, then why don't you post your full name and work phone number for all here to see? All this "PM me" crap is kinda' panzy if you ask me. Put up or shut up, Beck. I expect a reply to this post with a full name and daytime work phone number for all to see. Do that, and I will contact you as you request. Otherwise, you're just a coward by your very own definition..

I agree 100%........ my full contact info has always been available, but Beck's isn't. He could have called me at any time to discuss any issues he has, but he hasn't tried any means other than this forum, so I have to presume his bravado comes mostly from his computer. And rather than even communicating by phone, he thinks it's best to threaten physical violence instead.... yeah, right - he's not a psycho...

 

[chessrock]

no I'm not a real psycho.

I'm still waiting for you to post full name and work number. Until then, you're not a psycho at all in my book. Just chicken shit.

 

[acorec]

ACOREC - interesting post.

Tell me something, an old friend of mine gave me a Revox 2 track reel to reel(A77 or A80...I can't remember) the other day. Does this machine have the electronics to handle a hot enough signal to saturate the tapes without the circuit distortion?

If so I might try it out

I can't say. You would have to look at a repair/maintenence manual to find out. The Revox was made by Studer and it was higher on the food chain than stuff like Tascam. The real test is to record and find out.

 

[Beck]

I'm still waiting for you to post full name and work number. Until then, you're not a psycho at all in my book. Just chicken shit.

First of all I'll answer your posts if and when it's convienient for me. It may be hours, days or weeks, or never. But don't interpret any pause as anything other than the fact that I don't live here. I've already said more than nature gave you the capacity to comprehend.

Ok Bruce and Keith (Dumb & Dumber), How in the hell do you two actually manage to function in the professional Business world? You reason like a couple of 6-year olds.

In response to your ridiculous suggestion of posting addresses and phone numbers on a public and hostile forum, one would have to be a moron! Again, poor judgment on your part to make your personal information public and then proceed to jump and pounce on one member after another on this forum. That is not bold and brave, but rather idiotic. My number is unlisted and I wouldn't post it here even if tortured by the Viet Cong. And I wouldn't post any other member's info that I know (which are many), including both of yours.

Bruce, your first reaction was to sneak up like a coward and leave negative rep. You're the kind that makes harassing "hang-up" phone calls, slashes tires, and urinates in people's drinks when they're not looking. My job is to protect my wife and children from ass holes like you not open the door for them. Are you fucking kidding???

For the same reason, no police officer I know has his phone number listed in the directory. Not as long as people like you are allowed to roam about in our "free society" without a leash. You suppose they're all just a bunch of "chicken shits" too?

Neither of you have the spine or moral character to define what is or isn't noble and courageous behavior. You haven't the slightest idea. The closest you will ever come is foolish and reckless and probably end up breaking your own necks before anyone else has the chance. You are not in the position to set terms and conditions. You just don't realize that and probably never will.

My bravado, as you say, comes from a lifetime of living it (and being Scottish, but you wouldn't understand that either - though I'm sure at some point someone will read this and smile, knowingly nodding their head with empathy).

Me hiding behind a computer you say? It is I who suggested (ok, insisted) that we meet in a neutral location (not your homes) and hash this out in person. The offer (demand) still stands.

It is pathetic little cyber-bullies like you who can only manage a feeble imitation of a man with your little candy asses safely in your chair. You fool some people. You don't fool me and you don't fool as many people as you did even days ago. Your bold words are about as powerful as Michael Jackson pointing his skinny finger in the camera singing "Beat It!" (Catchy tune, but what a miscast for the part of the tough guy).

The gig is up. Your thousands of posts and "reputations" are worthless. There is no "Blue Bear", just a frightened little rodent playing dress-up in daddy's clothes. You have no credibility here and your reign is over - find another outlet. I strongly suggest it is something other than abusing your wives (boyfriends?), employees or torturing little animals.

P.S. Bruce, I'll concede that Gloucester, Ontario is a little ambitious for me at this time of the year.

Keith, what about the Art Gallery Kafe sometime down the road. I can see you don't like the idea so I won't rush you. You didn't become a jerk, a coward and a moron overnight and I can't expect you to suddenly come around just like that. I'll give you a little time and space to think about what you've done.

I don't stay acutely angry indefinitely - that would be psycho. And your posts are getting progressively weaker, ineffective and therefore less provocative. Man, you tire easily. 35 isn't that old. Hmmm…

Hey, how 'bout them Cubs?

 

[Han]

Having read three pages of this thread I must say that although Beck is overreacting, he certainly has a point IMHO.

The way Bruce and Chess are responding is plain silly, be ashamed guys.

Time to apologise I suppose?

I happen to be a moderator on a couple of forums and I would not tolerate this behaviour. The three of you have so much to offer here, so please stop this, right?

Back on topic I can tell you I have a number of pro two track tape machines, A Telefunken M10, two Philips Pro 50 (quite rare tube machine) and a Studer B67.

A pro machine in good shape, well aligned, will outperform any Fostex, Teac and similar machine.

In my country every now and then a machine like Studer A810 can be found for $200/250, get a machine like that.

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

Hey, how 'bout them Cubs?

Now THOSE are fighting words!

Seriously, though, guys, could you all take your little chest-puffing, peacock-strutting feud someplace nobody else cares about, like in private or a "walters" thread?

G.

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

We'll most likely be using some form of free digital program. Before I get to the topic question, I've considered learning how to use protools free, but I heard it sounds terrible, so what free digital program should I use? I'll be using digital because it'll allow me the most options in the cheapest package.

However, I know (as I have some experience) that digital doesn't sound as good as analog. I've heard of this process where you record digital and then run it through some analog source or a analog plug in to make it warmer. How does one go about such a process? Would simply running the track straight into an analog 4 track, then running that back into the digital world to be burnt on a cd work? Or is there a more complicated (or easier) process to add warmth to the recordings?

Just like cheap analog, cheap/budget digital doesn't sound good, period. Digital is ALL about the quality of the converters - nothing more. Outstanding sound quality is available using high-quality converters (those who say otherwise have never heard high-resolution digital audio.) So if you want to get good digital recordings, not only do you have good sound happening in front of the mic, you have to have a good front end signal chain to capture it.

If you want to use budget s/w to do your recording (meaning you're going digital), you'd be wise to invest in at least renting some high-quality A/D converters for your project. This will get you far better results than trying to capture your tracks using crappy converters and then trying to restore the fideilty later with either plug-ins or routing thru cheap analog gear.

YMMV..........

 

[mjareo]

Ho-ly cow.

You know, sometimes people disagree with us. If you think it was done in a disrepectful manner, so be it. But all you do is make yourself sound pretty lame blowing up on the internet of all places - the most impersonal and inaccurate place to have a conversation with someone. Come on - let it go, let the argument die. You have destroyed your point by going on and on about this. Let's just move on - it is a lot less stressful for everyone.

"All you need is love...John Lennon said that, smart man, shot in the head, very sad..."
(from Independence Day)

[and now let the yelling begin at the new guy...]

 

[JimmyB625]

"…it's funny, someone called me psycho once before, but only once that I recall. It was in the 8th grade when I jumped on three rather big and mean classmates by myself who were picking on a new kid from England. His father was in the military and got shipped back to the states with his British wife and kids who had grown up in England. "


A Scotsman? Protecting an Englishman?

Shurely Shome Mishtake.....

 

[chessrock]

In response to your ridiculous suggestion of posting addresses and phone numbers on a public and hostile forum, one would have to be a moron!

Ya see, Tim ... I'm having a hard time reconciling two very conflicting statements you've made. On one hand, you criticize Bruce for being sneaky, and not having kahones, etc. Yet, his information is public knowlege. He's not hiding behind some computer. He has his opinions and he states them ... and stands behind them with his personal and professional reputation. Not as an anonymous nickname.

The problem you have is in accepting that his statements don't always agree with yours. You also have an inate weakness and self-doubt to be so hurt by ... of all things ... a stupid little negative feedback rating. Mr. Tae-kwan-do here gets all upset over a silly little internet game. It's rather humorous in a way. I see images of the Jolly Green Giant driven to tears because a little 4-year old girl steps on his foot.

Me hiding behind a computer you say? It is I who suggested (ok, insisted) that we meet in a neutral location (not your homes) and hash this out in person. The offer (demand) still stands.

.... Keith, what about the Art Gallery Kafe sometime down the road.

Ya see, Tim, it's statements like this that really concern me. This is the kind of thing that people get arrested for. There are many dangerous people -- sexual predators -- on the internet who use tactics like yours to lure underage children in to dangerous situations.

In other words, your advances are rather creepy. I have no interest in meeting you. I am a straight male, and proud of it. I do not wish to be preyed upon by internet stalkers, and if this escalates any further, I will show no hesitation in reporting your advances to the proper authorities. You're crossing some serious lines here, and, again, I think you might need help.

 

[mjareo]

I'm beginning to think that the screen name of the individual who started this post is most appropriate as a header..


DOHHHH!

Seems like that is pretty much where it has ended up...