TubeDude Tip-O-The-Week 8/18/01

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Ahhh... saturday night and I'm too frigging lazy to get a shower and go out and get laid. Pretty bad.
Instead, I'm doing this, and I have a headache from chsing down info and reviews all day on the Langevin Dual Mono, Sytek and Grace Design preamps.
So here goes....

Gain staging... WTF is it?
Gain what? Unity huh?
This is sort of a spin off from the last one about recording your levels hot, and to be honest, I dont remember if this was covered or not, and I'm not even going to check. So what. :)

Lets take an "average" signal chain.
mic --> preamp --> compressor --> EQ --> converters/tape.
This is assuming, of course, that you NEED an EQ and comp in the chain. Remember from before, minimize the signal path, get better quality recording.
Ok, our mic is feeding the preamp its signal from a loud guitar amp. Most everyone knows to adjust the gain on the preamp to play around at or very near the red, with room for dynamic content without peaking into distortionville. For a lot of unexperienced recordists, this is where things get hazy. "My gain is right, so now I'm good to go". Thats partially correct. You're good to go on that particular part of the chain. What happens now when out signal hits the compressor? Hopefully our preamp converted the signal into professional +4 operating levels and is feeding that to the compressor though a clean connection. The idea of the compressor is usually to ride louder passages and keep everything in a preey nice, smooth dynamic range. It does have other uses, but this is our usage for now.
Ok, we're tracking and the guitar player is playing some leads and the preamp meters are right where you want them. Most likely you would have the compressor maybe sucking off a db or 2 at the most at this point. Suddenly, the guitar player nails his lowest chord with a palm mute, which exagerates the bass frequencies, and bam... your preamp meters are at the highest point you want them and the compressor is suddenly chopping out 6 to 7 db. So far nothing has distorted because we're good like that, right? ;) You notice that the meters on the input of the compressor are no longer lining up with the meters on its output. You were at -3 on both before, suddenly the input is higher than the output. This is cause by the gain reduction done by the compressor. The idea is to try to get the output even with the input, at highest levels without distorting into the red. When they are the same, it is known as "unity gain" and is an important part of tracking. This is done with a makeup gain function on the compressors output. Why? For one, the stronger your signal is, the higher it is over the noise that is present in your chain. Less noise makes happier boyz. We'll hit on another reason shortly.
Next was the EQ. Same theory, but the EQ can do either or both of 2 things, cutting and boosting frequencies. Cutting freqs will lower the overall signal strength, as boosting will increase it. A passive EQ most will most times weaken a signal some. Again, what you want here is unity gain going to the converters or tape. Now, if you;re using converters, you'll know if you clip. Ugly shit, not a nice distortion. Keep it out of the red at all times. With tape, sometimes you can get a desirable effect by letting it hit the tape really hard. Use your ears.

Change One Change All, the balancing act...

The next thing thats important to remember is that changing the signal gain at any point in the chain will affect it at its next stages.
For instance, if you have all your levels just right, and someone bumps the mic out of place, and you find that you need to adjust the preamp gain, it most likely will affect the amount of signal hitting the compressor and whatever follows. As a rule, if you change a gain setting, including any EQ'ing or compression ratios, you have to follow up by at least doing a quick check on every meter that follows. Make sense?

Riding The Gain

Gain riding is actually putting your hand on the gain during a performace you know well, say your vocalist, and keeping the level as hot as possible and reducing it when louder passages come in, increasing when softer passages happen. This can make your job mixing easier, as well as elimimate a compressor from the chain. Its also kinda fun, too, but tricky. Takes some getting used to.

Calibrating to unity across the chain

If you set up your entire chain and everything is running at professional +4 levels, and you have no compression set in and no eq adjustments, everything flat basically, then you can get an idea of how well calibrated your system is by running 0db out of the preamp, and all meters from start to finish should show the same level, no changes. There should be no changes in gain levels until you start adding/subtracting EQ and compression, etc... this can give you an idea of how your system operates...

One thing to watch out for is different operating levels at different areas in your chain. If your preamp puts out +4 and your compressor accepts +4 and outputs the same, but your EQ accepts -10 and outputs -10, then you have to kick back up to +4 for your converters, well... you see the problem. I hope you see the problem.

Umm, I can't think of anything else right this second, and I'm sure Bruce and everyone is gonna jump in and add some good shit too.
Ask as many questions as you can til you understand it all. Once you do, its second nature.

Happy tracking.
Paul
 
'Dude,you think too much.No wonder you have a fucking headache!!!Stop thinking so much and post another song
for Christ sake!!
Just kidding,I'm gonna read this again and try to digest it.I
probably am not thinking enough.
 
3 days... must not be an interesting subject.... oh well... :)
 
but it IS interesting

I thought it was interesting, I just can't do anything yet beacause I have no preamp yet . . .

Keep 'em coming.
 
Thany you paul for sharing this valuable info with us all :-)))) keep the tips coming good on ya m8
 
thank you gee i can spell now than thann thankk thank u yoo you :)
 
Thanks Paul,

Unity gain is something I am trying to grasp now. There was an article about it in Electronic Musician this month, and I just posted on a different group asking for some input on it.

Everything is self contained on my 2480, but I want to eventually get some high quaility external pres and compressors. I want to have a good grasp of gain structure before I ever even take em out of the box.

Taylor
 
P.S. You're gonna have to start calling these things the "Tip of the Month"
 
Someone asked a question about this, so I brought it to the front... enjoy...
 
Thats tip-o-the-year to you, assmunch! :)
If I just keep reguritating these two, then its kinda like I wrote a new one again, ha! :)
Any ideas for a new one, anyone?
 
Tubedude how about...Compressors and all the wonderful things they do..Hard knee? Soft knee?VCA or OPTO??Limiting and What the hell is a "side chain"..How do I get this thing to "duck" etc

Don
 
Doh!

Again!
Ahh, a new post... sidechains... ummm, lets see...
The way I've tried to use side chains in the past is to have the kick drum trigger the compressor to lower the bass levels just a hair, very fast, so that the kick gets though and the bass line is right back up again. It can be used that was for a number of different things, like vocals over the entire mix... the mix drops a db or 2 during vocals, and comes up otherwise. Listen to Howard stern sometimes and hear how his background music drops whenever he talks.
Anyone else have ideas for sidechaining?
 
This was the first TotM I read. It caused me to burrow into the archives and root up some of your other ones. Seems like so long ago.
Good stuff, tube.
 
Good deal! I'm looking up some info on sidechains... there are some pretty cool ways to use them, but its been awhile since I've even thought about it....
 
Also "de ss ing" is a side chain function..Useing a "eg" to trigger the comp.

Don
 
howabout changing it to tip of the month sinse the tips dont pop up as much now

and maybe you could do an article on gear choices for beginers
like an essential what you need from what you can avoid buying early on when you are getting started out

this may be a daunting task as where do you start

maybe you can break it into a number of small series parts where one is dedicated to the kind of studios which have recorded bands
and then you can do one to suit the more dj inclined amoungst us

for the traditional studio you could maybe focus more on the rack and what makes up a good rack like what are the must haves in a rack and how many of each piece of gear does one need

also post something on a good basic set of mics which will cover most applications from micing up a drum kit to micing a single acoustic guitar player and vocals

so i guess you will need to think whats needed in a studio before you can really cover these bases in an easy to read jargon free series of post just some food for thought
 
Man this thread fell faster than a rock..LOL..also "keying" the gate on a compresser..Useing the signal from say a snare and applying it to a rytm guitar "funk type of rytm" will tighten it up .. and also ganging compressers..you set say a compresser for tone {color} and then chain it another for say something like limiting..Like a simple Opto comp. for color and then use a VCA for limiting...Just more ideas for you..

Don
 
Sidechain for gates

Another sidechain use could be running a bass through a gate, and sidechaining the bass drum to trigger the gate. This would only "open" the gate for the bass when the bass drum is stomped. Used correctly it can make the bass & bass drum sound a lot tighter than they really are...

I only do this with tracks that are already on tape - NEVER during basic track recording - since it's a wobbly process... but it can be a good way of cleaning up a take that's already committed to tape, as a way to fix problem areas without having to re-record the bass.

hope that helps /Tommy
 
I saw people asking about this stuff, so I brought it to life again.
 
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