Tryin' to Take a Step Back

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Sounds awesome Tim. I agree with what rayc said.......sounds like it's in a empty (possibly open ceiling or walls) tiled space.
 
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jpw23 – Another good one. Verb is king! :cool:

NL5 – Yeah, I’m listening more to Naka’s work on it and liking it more with each listen.

Travis – Thanks. Much appreciated. :)

Timverb
 
Timothy Lawler said:
jpw23 – Another good one. Verb is king! :cool:

NL5 – Yeah, I’m listening more to Naka’s work on it and liking it more with each listen.

Travis – Thanks. Much appreciated. :)

Timverb

I used some old blue plugs on this....reverb and stereo......old directx stuff
 
jpw23 said:
I used some old blue plugs on this....reverb and stereo......old directx stuff
I have those. I always thought the Blueline verb sounded pretty good. And the stereo enhancer sounds better than Ozone to me. What were your settings?

Tim
 
OK...I'm finally around to listen to this...Which version am I supposed to listen to???
 
Timothy Lawler said:
I have those. I always thought the Blueline verb sounded pretty good. And the stereo enhancer sounds better than Ozone to me. What were your settings?

Tim
to tell the truth.....I don't know...just moved the sliders around till I found something I liked :D
 
jpw23 said:
to tell the truth.....I don't know...just moved the sliders around till I found something I liked :D
Hey...Finally!!! Someone that works the same I do. I knew I liked you for some reason. :p :cool:
 
Ok so when you record acoustic, do you do two takes of the exact same thing or do you copy and paste the same recording onto two different tracks and pan hard left and right. Or what is the technique to make it sound wide, because I noticed that acoustic recordings sound real wide.
 
myhatbroke said:
Ok so when you record acoustic, do you do two takes of the exact same thing or do you copy and paste the same recording onto two different tracks and pan hard left and right. Or what is the technique to make it sound wide, because I noticed that acoustic recordings sound real wide.

Well, for starters, you use two microphones . . .
 
myhatbroke said:
Ok so when you record acoustic, do you do two takes of the exact same thing or do you copy and paste the same recording onto two different tracks and pan hard left and right. Or what is the technique to make it sound wide, because I noticed that acoustic recordings sound real wide.



Tim uses another technique on his song, as Mshilarious said, he uses two mics (don´t know if pans hard, probably yes)

Copy / paste sucks!
You will have serious phase issues, don´t works (even with very hard and radical eq).

(Ok, You even can try as an experience , but I personally never had good results trying it).

Ciro
 
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Timothy Lawler said:
mshil - thans for the info.

Nakatira - man, that's so lush and sweet it's going to make my past reverb cravings start up all over again. What did you use?

Tim


Hi Tim, sorry for not responding sooner.
I took an early nap yesterday due to extensive rehearsing and working.

I started out with a verb called Native verb, I got it through a native bundle.
When I first started using it I never quit, I`ve tried loads of other verbs but this is my fave one.

any way I tried it first on your track and It felt like I was sitting right nexzt to you guitar in a big room, dident capture the distance.

Untill; I remembered a popular 70`s reverb technique, wich I first heard on Thick as a Brick by Jethro Tull.
I duplicated your stereo track so that I had two.
Did one clean and one at 80% wet.
Lowered the volume on the dry one, and panned them 25 or so to each side.

Hearing that you liked it makes me proud, and honoured.
thanks a lot Tim.
 
MHBroke,
I thought yours sound good'n'cosmic - but I'm a reverb addict trying to "dry" out.
Nak's sounds really silky. Most other folk have done well too. I've not attempted because I know no subtlty.
 
Rami – Well, the good news is that the tune’s just 40 seconds. Maybe just listen to the unprocessed version and throw some verb at it.

Jpw -
to tell the truth.....I don't know...just moved the sliders around till I found something I liked
Ha… I do the same. Too much note taking kills the fun. One of the things I like about Wavelab is the master section preset list where you can save plugin combinations without getting bogged down in saving individual presets.

Myhatbroke -
what is the technique to make it sound wide
The mic setup I used has some width to the sound since the mic’s were 7 or so inches apart. The mic’s were recorded hard panned L and R and kept that way in the mp3. Stereo verb tends to increase the L/R differences - the Room Machine plug did a lot of that on my first run at the processing in the original post. Copying and pasting a mono guitar track, delaying one side 20 ms or so and using different EQ on each can sound good too but it’s less realistic. And as Ciro said, it can cause phase problems and that can turn into a real headache later.

Nakatira – Thanks for the info. Great technique. What I like about it is that the clarity of the original attack is preserved but the percussiveness of the string attack is made to sound more distant. Native verb... that's TC Electronics, right?

Rayc -
I've not attempted because I know no subtlty
Ha, that’s too funny Ray.

Tim
 
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Yeah Tim; I forgot all about to mention that.
I generally just call it Native, it might get confused with native instruments.
So TC it is.

Btw It took your tune to discover the new technique.
I just thought, Might as well give it a shot, I`m just thrilled it worked out the way it did.
cant wait to try it out on backing vox :)
 
Timothy Lawler said:
I've been trying to find a way to make a close mic'd guitar sound farther away. This track was mic'd at 3 ft while sitting at my kitchen table. Then I tried to place it in a large room with the listener about 15 feet away using the Room Machine plug but I dunno... do you think it sounds at all realistic?

Estudio 19 - composer Julio Sagreras.

Here's the original file without the effect. raw file

If you run this through your arsenal of plugins and can get a realistic distance effect please tell me how you did it.

Tim
The processed one sounds like a spanish movie soundtrack like the opening creds or something. Really really sounds like it's telling a story - somewhat laidback, sunny, bright, slow day....

Anyhoo, the raw one just sounds good. It's the playing first and foremost that just simply sounds great. :) I'll try to give it a shot. :)
 
Here's my experiment.

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=5118

Have listened to all and like all versions as stand alone. But some don't sound as the customer (Tim) has requested.

This is actually a really neat idea to just give your vision and let others try and match it. When I'm working my tracks, I don't end up with what I envisioned. Along the way I'll be using other FX chains that I start liking and end up with something else that I equally like. But this is a good exercise in having a vision and completing it. :)
 
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