Trumpet Mics

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DJL said:
The 421 is much better than the B3 on brass... no contest.
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How can you make such a statement man, the 421 is a pretty hot sounding dynamic and not my choice for trumpet, the 441 or the 201 is a better choice. But some LDC's can sound great on trumpet, bone or the bigger horns.

Matter of taste also, but trumpets can sound very small and harsh on some dynamics.

Next time I'm gonna use a ribbon on trumpet, never tried that.

I will let you know about it.
 
mshilarious said:
Anybody ever try a Beyer M88 on brass?
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Yes, I've used it on T-bone, Euphonium and tuba. The M88 is one of the great classic dynamics, a great vocal mic, kick, snare, guitarcab, floortom and horns mic.
 
Han said:
How can you make such a statement man, the 421 is a pretty hot sounding dynamic and not my choice for trumpet, the 441 or the 201 is a better choice. But some LDC's can sound great on trumpet, bone or the bigger horns.

Matter of taste also, but trumpets can sound very small and harsh on some dynamics.

Next time I'm gonna use a ribbon on trumpet, never tried that.

I will let you know about it.
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Compare your B1 with a MD421 on trumpet, sax, and etc and see if you still need to ask me "How can you make such a statement man".
 
I have noticed that when i play into the MD421, it has a pretty good sound. But it is a little thin for what i normally do. I would really like to get a MD441 soon to try out. Im guessing the MD421 with a condensor a few feet back would have a pretty balanced sound.

All this talk, i think im going to head to the studio now and expirement a little more.

Danny
 
Don, the best trumpet and bugel sounds I've gotten was with the Neumann M149 which is definitely a LDC, although I must add that the players didn't play loud.

The SP B1 can sound pretty good on trumpet, bigger than the 421 and less thin. I have plenty of 421 experience and prefer the 441 together with a tube LDC for the warmth.

It was you who said the 421 is better on trumpet than the B3, which I doubt, but of course YMMV.

I agree with you that the 421 is an awesome mic, but don't forget that a trumpet is a small horn and most players want it to sound bigger than it is.

Try your M201 on trumpet, it may sound better than the 421.
 
Great thread. Chances are that I'm going to record some brass in august for a song. Of the mics mentioned I own a V67, B3 and two 421's and it's good to have a clue where to start. Thanks.
 
Man all this horrible mic advice for the trumpet. A u87 or c414 on trumpet! Egads! The m149 was about the best suggestion I've seen. As far as condensers go I've had pretty good luck with a u67 or u47, the '49 is good too. Come on people, ribbons people. 4038, rca's and the royer ribbons are great trumpet mics. Dynamics: re20 or sm-7 with the right pre can rock the trumpet baby.
 
sweetnubs said:
Man all this horrible mic advice for the trumpet. A u87 or c414 on trumpet! Egads! The m149 was about the best suggestion I've seen. As far as condensers go I've had pretty good luck with a u67 or u47, the '49 is good too. Come on people, ribbons people. 4038, rca's and the royer ribbons are great trumpet mics. Dynamics: re20 or sm-7 with the right pre can rock the trumpet baby.
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Excellent Sweetnubs, I be liking your advise so much excellently!!! Truly that is so very outsanding!!!
Wait a second.... what about $100 budget? Hmmm :confused:
 
I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread yet, but does anyone have any idea what mic's/pre's/EQ was used on the brass on the album 'Why do they rock so hard' by Reel Big Fish? I would say that the brass sound on that album is one of the best I have ever heard.
 
Han said:
It was you who said the 421 is better on trumpet than the B3, which I doubt, but of course YMMV.
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Yes, I said "The 421 is much better than the B3 on brass... no contest." and I stand by that statement... and the M201 is nice on horn.
 
U87 and C414 are a very common mic for trumpet. Of course thats going for a certain color. The U87 was definately bright, but i really liked it for what i was doing.

If i would have had a M149, or a Ribbon mic at the time, those could have been my choices also.

Neil, check out Mad Caddies - Duck and Cover. That album has some of the best recorded horns i have ever heard. Similiar style of music also. Recording by good old Ryan Greene.

He used a MD421 on them too. Wish i could figure out how he did it because thats not the sound i get with them. Im guessing he used a mixture of mics with that album.

Danny
 
darnold said:
Neil, check out Mad Caddies - Duck and Cover. That album has some of the best recorded horns i have ever heard. Similiar style of music also. Recording by good old Ryan Greene.

He used a MD421 on them too. Wish i could figure out how he did it because thats not the sound i get with them. Im guessing he used a mixture of mics with that album.
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Duck and Cover is one of my favourite albums of all time - so diverse, brilliant and fresh.

If you head over to www.ryangreene.com there is a forum there where you can ask questions and such like, although it is rare you will get a decent reply.
 
the trick is also to mic the trumpet off axis. The brightest portion of sound projects in a narrow cone from the bell. I'm a certified member of EABT. Engineers Against Bright Trumpets. If you like 'em that's your own bad taste, not mine.
 
boingoman said:
I love this [Sennheiser 604] on sax and trumpet...
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?? I used a Sennheiser 604 on tenor sax once. My sax sounded like a tin can! Worst sax mic ever!
 
sweetnubs - Heh i see. Yah i know what your talking about, it was just in that case it worked rather well. The thing with the U87 is it was back about 4-5 feet and a little off axis, so it wasnt really as bright as your probably expecting.

Neil - Yah ive been to his forum. Its actually not listed on his site anymore. I email him when i talk to him. We were actually gonna hit up NAMM this year but i never made it down there. Duck and Cover is an awesome CD. Ill normally play along with it once through when im practicing. There older Quality Softcore is also a great album, just not as hard.

I really dont put saxaphones in a horn category. Although alot of mics that work with trumpets and trombones also work for sax, but not all the time.

Danny
 
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