travis barker from blink 182

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Originally Posted by SwanSong
To say that Travis Barker is better than any of the drummers anyone is thinking of is complete ignorance. ONE drummer that I am thinking of is John Bonham. I'm not sure how much you have seen from him, but if you can go out and pick up the Led Zeppelin DVD that came out a year ago, 15 minutes of some of the most creative and amazing drumming. Watch that, your opinion should change. If not, you are obviously blind and deaf. If your interested in more try the How The West Was Won triple cd set also, which features a 20 minute drum solo.

I've downloaded what is called a drum solo from travis barker. Its on my computer and its named " something to make me feel better.mp3". It's 2:22 in length and the actual drum solo is only 1:28, which wouldn't even qualify as goofing around on a set of drums. He then throws a beat into the "solo"? So what we now have is a song, without guitar or bass.

His Creativity is no where near Any great drummers. Go back to the greats, Buddy Rich, John Bonham, Ginger Baker, Neil Peart,(i know there are more..) they were all doing historical innovative stuff, that still stands up today, and that was 30 years ago +!

The opening two seconds to John Bonhams drum solo song " Moby Dick " grabs my attention more than all ONE minute and thirty seconds of travis barkers drum.... uhhh... thing? A drum solo is supposed to show what you can do. Not what everyone else can.




HAHAHA!! i agree
 
Rwiess, I understand what you are saying I guess. But what I am saying is that, if you stripped Travis Barker of his double bass pedal, and all that, if you stuck him on the seat of John Bonhams drums, and John Bonham were alive, first of all let me just say, Travis right foot isn't quicker than Bonhams, <-Fact. He couldn't keep the speed up that Bonham could. Take away Bonhams right foot, and what do you have? An incredibly awesome drummer! Since 1964 he has been a huge innovator, since he first played a Drum solo with his BARE hands, no sticks, in 1964. He had great feel for a song. He established a mood, he had swing, drama and a lot of other factors that are kind of subconscious to a listener. Travis Barker may have that, but he doesn't implore it on the Blink records. Everyone says that he has great drumming on "Adams Song" or something like that, well that's all very well that he does good drumming on THAT song. Bonham did that 100% of the time.

You also bring up that "Travis is what... 25 years old? " Fantastic for Travis that he is 25, when the first Led Zeppelin album came out, which features his infamous right foot triplet, John Bonham was 20. That very same year when the second album, that revealed his 'Moby Dick' came out he had turned 21. And I don't base my opinion off of one drum solo from Travis, I have heard 3. Even if I did, the first one I heard from Bonham was amazing, as was everyone after that.

When I listen to Led Zeppelin recordings, or John Bonham, I still think, " Wow, that was a really, really keen idea. That was great! ", multiple times within one song. When I hear Travis Barker i say, " wow I'm glad I heard that so I don't accidentally do it one day. "

Maybe we are rating speed and endurance on two totally different scales here. When I think of speed and endurance, I for some reason think of 3 and a half hour shows, 25 or 30 minute drum solos within those shows, and 45 minute songs, that never let you down.

The whole point of this is, I'm not saying "Travis Barker sucks", "Travis Barker is shit", or any of that. But to say he is better than anyone, well, I don't know what to say except that it's false.
 
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Good points :) ...but Travis sure is better than a lot of drummers. I think you've proved me wrong when compared to John Bonham, but none the less, he's good.
 
Selph S-Team said:
listen. all you little faggot ass bitches who are jerkin on travis are just fuckin jealous cuz he will blow any of your 'drummers' out of the fuckin water. and y'all know that. travis barker is the best fuckin drummer in the world. and there is no doubt about that one. so all y'all trick ass bitches need to shut your fuckin mouths bcuz your 'drummers' dont have shit on travis. he will kick there asses and still have energy to put on a show. and thats final.
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Danny Carey? Josh Freese? Actually Travis might be on a par with Josh, you'd have to put Blink and The Vandals on the same bill and see what happened. But is Travis better than Danny Carey? No. He is better than me though.
 
Heh, Danny Carey is fucking awesome... he plays an entirely different style (Indian form of exotic music, forget the name).
 
im sorry to drag up points that have already been made, but...

the punk thing. i realise im going into dangerous waters by commenting on this. my PERSONAL opinion is that punk cannot be defined by one person...its like one person defining good music. when one person describes what they to believe to be good music, that does by no means make that good music. unfourtunately the label punk has been thrown around so much over the years, its difficult to define it as a whole, so i still believe it all comes down to personal opinion. what a 12 year old thinks punk is and what 30 year old thinks punk is are obviously going to be very different, but niether will be wrong. it is just that type of music which that generation was exposed to. the problem is, is that the generations have overlapped, and opinions have been formed and clashed.

in my opinion, travis is my favourite drummer. i refuse to accept he is the best, as i have not been witness to the drumming skills of every drummer ever, so my opinion will only be based on what i know. however, from what i know, for his genre of music, he plays to a very high standard. listening to similar bands to the ones he is in, im sure you could say he is better than average. i think it is useless comparing him to another drummer other than a drummer which plays the same genre of music as him, as styles between decades and styles of music have changed and evolved so much, one style of music will require totally different techniques to be successful than another.

but yeah. listening to any other pop punk band, or whatever your own personal label for blink is, i think he is inventive, he is fast, and he does it all well. thats why he is my favourite. i respect alot of drummers alot more, but i cant fully understand them as the style they play isn't the same as my personal opinion of what is good music.

i always think if travis was in a different, more inventive band he would be alot more respected then. but, he wouldn't be playing pop punk, and i have no idea what he is like at other styles.
 
I know it's old...But!

The Modern Drummer solo between Marvin Smitty Smith and Steve Smith is the best I have ever seen!!! :)
 
If where talking about chops how about virgil donati, vinnie colaiuta, tony williams. Gadd, Chambers...I've seen Thomas Lang live and he laid some of the most complex patterns at blazing speeds that even weckl would say damn. These guys have been Playing 10 hour days for years and have more music theory then well... Travis is still pretty good at what he does just not that good to be noted as one of the greats.
 
Virgil Donati can throw out some major skillness... his one-handed roll on the snare(while "rolling" along the toms with the other one) is pretty awesome... saw him live at a drum clinic near me.
 
rweiss said:
Virgil Donati can throw out some major skillness... his one-handed roll on the snare(while "rolling" along the toms with the other one) is pretty awesome... saw him live at a drum clinic near me.
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Talking about one hand rolls.... You should see Johnny Rabb woth them too.
 
Blink 182 said:
im sorry to drag up points that have already been made, but...

the punk thing. i realise im going into dangerous waters by commenting on this. my PERSONAL opinion is that punk cannot be defined by one person...its like one person defining good music. when one person describes what they to believe to be good music, that does by no means make that good music. unfourtunately the label punk has been thrown around so much over the years, its difficult to define it as a whole, so i still believe it all comes down to personal opinion. what a 12 year old thinks punk is and what 30 year old thinks punk is are obviously going to be very different, but niether will be wrong. it is just that type of music which that generation was exposed to. the problem is, is that the generations have overlapped, and opinions have been formed and clashed.

in my opinion, travis is my favourite drummer. i refuse to accept he is the best, as i have not been witness to the drumming skills of every drummer ever, so my opinion will only be based on what i know. however, from what i know, for his genre of music, he plays to a very high standard. listening to similar bands to the ones he is in, im sure you could say he is better than average. i think it is useless comparing him to another drummer other than a drummer which plays the same genre of music as him, as styles between decades and styles of music have changed and evolved so much, one style of music will require totally different techniques to be successful than another.

but yeah. listening to any other pop punk band, or whatever your own personal label for blink is, i think he is inventive, he is fast, and he does it all well. thats why he is my favourite. i respect alot of drummers alot more, but i cant fully understand them as the style they play isn't the same as my personal opinion of what is good music.

i always think if travis was in a different, more inventive band he would be alot more respected then. but, he wouldn't be playing pop punk, and i have no idea what he is like at other styles.
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i totally have to agree with this kid. punk cannot be defined as one person. it cant be defined as a fuckin group. punk is not people. punk is a style. weather is goth punk. or skater punk or any other kind of punk out there. its not people. but people out there say that good charolette is punk. and blink isnt. well thats a matter of opinion. blink is punk. just a different style punk. there is no real definition for punk. it has evolved into alot of different styles. but to say that travis barker doesnt play for punk bands. come on people. thats like saying he doesnt play for blink. he plays for blink, boxcar racer, the transplants. those sound like punk bands to me. weather is skaterpunk, like blink and boxcar. or goth punk, like the transplants. he is DEFINITLY a punk drummer. now i have seen alot of drummers. before. not live, but on videos and shit. and i am STILL yet to see a drummer that gets my attention like travis does. i am just not interested in what all the other drummers are doing. ive been reading some of these posted things on here. and i have come to realize that you can say wat ever you want. you can spit as much shit as you want. but people are still gonne believe what they want to believe. in my opinion, travis is one of the greatest drummers. but thats just my opinion. y'all have COMPLETELY different opinions that i do. so y'all can keep spittin shit, do what ever they fuck you want to do. if you dont think that travis is an insanely awesome drummer. then you dont think that. but me personally, i do. he is my favorite drummer and probably will stay that way forever (until i show him up myself....haha jk y'all) so this is my opinion on what y'all define punk and what everybody says about travis and all the other drummers. i do have to say this tho, not to be a dick or what not. but you can mention the name travis barker to just about anybody. and more than likely they will know who he is. but you mention all the old skool drummers to people and they might not know who he is. shit, alot of the drummers that have been brought up i havent ever heard of. but thats just the kind of kids that are brought up these days. and dont get me wrong, old skool music is the shit. i love that kinda music. but i need music that is going to get me pumped up for some shit. and punk rock is there to do the job. now, y'all want to hear a good drummer. the drummer from slipknot is pretty good. y'all might just be like "shut the fuck up you dirty bitch". but even tho he uses 2 peddles. hes a pretty damn good drummer. so y'all who wanna look into him. you wont be depressed, but for those of you who dont. hey. thats your decision. well. this is what i think. talk to y'all later. PEACE!!!
 
That shit ain't punk man! That shits is for and by Frat boys with tattoos and stupid shirts they bought at HOT TOPIC to piss off thier parents. Pedestrian Bullshit overdone unoriginal tow the line cock rock. The one thing that anything called Punk has in common is that it pushes limits and explores new territory or new energy. Wire, Buzzcocks, Clash, Talking Heads, Iggy and the Stooges, Lungfish, Fugazi, The Birthday Party, Jesus and Mary Chain, , Modern Lovers, MC5, Telivision........ Punk does not CONFORM BLINK 182 IS Common Comformity.
 
Be Loveless is right.

Punk was born in 1976. It died sometime around 1979.

What passes for punk now is not punk. It's some kind of artificial, man-made, synthetic, wannabe punk-like substitute
 
Selph S-Team said:
and i am STILL yet to see a drummer that gets my attention like travis does. i am just not interested in what all the other drummers are doing.

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but you mention all the old skool drummers to people and they might not know who he is. shit, alot of the drummers that have been brought up i havent ever heard of. but thats just the kind of kids that are brought up these days. and dont get me wrong, old skool music is the shit. i love that kinda music.
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But you have heard of Danny Carey right? (Sorry for waving the Tool flag around everybody)

I mean the guy is on a completely different plane. And the difference between him and a lot of the drummers mebtioned previously is that he actually plays in a band, making a creative contribution.

Are Tool "Old School"?

46 & 2 would amp me up more than any Blink song.
 
pfft.... cmon. Parabol(a) and Ticks and Leeches, and Lateralus of course
 
Steve Smith

I remember seeing what I think is the greatest solo/duets
when Steve Smith and Marvin Smitty Smith played in the Modern Drummer video.
 
technical ability is nothing. or at least every little. it's the songwriting/musicwriting that counts. you could be the best guitar player in the world but if you cant write a decent riff then you never be a good guitarist.


what I'm getting at is it doesnt matter if Travis is isnt as good as the greats. but if he can write a good part to compliament the song then he's good, no matter what his chopps are like..


....personly I'm not a fan.



I much prefer than guy from the strokes... man that guy can drum
 
rweiss said:
i agree that John Bonham was good, but he wasn't as great as everyone makes him out to be. Him and the band was the music that got me started with drumming, but now that I look back on everything they've done, I can't really say he's an AWESOME drummer.
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bonhams good for his writing and well as his crazy solos.... that beat for 'When the Leeve Breaks'... that aint hard but that's one hell of a beat.
 
triple-zero said:
technical ability is nothing. or at least every little. it's the songwriting/musicwriting that counts. you could be the best guitar player in the world but if you cant write a decent riff then you never be a good guitarist.
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I much prefer than guy from the strokes... man that guy can drum
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I agree with you on the writing good stuff to compliment the song, but I disagree on what you said before that. You can still be an awesome drummer even if you can't put something together that's going to make a song shine, but doing both is what seperates the "legends" from the good guys... Travis is getting there. :)


And the Strokes... ew.
 
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