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Clam Soup said:
If I ask someone to play like the sun, I don't anticipate daisies, but expect something heavy, raw ,and mean. It's nice to imagine the butterflies in the field, but the surface of the sun is a hostile place.... does that make sense to anyone but me? :-)
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It may only make sense to you...unless you take the time to describe what it is you are talking about, in which case why bother to use terminology that has no/little meaning to a musician.
Like you mentioned...playhing like "the sun" may evoke a certain sound/style in your mind...but most people will have their own idea of what that means. So, if you then have to explain it to them, to play heavy, raw, mean...why not just say "play heavy, raw, mean"....? :)

I like your idea of using visualizations that are not so common and applying them to music...but the minute you begin to work with other musicians, there has to be a common language everyone understands..

Heck, I'm still not sure what "a woolly mammoth lumbering through the trees" is supposed to sound *to you*...but I would play it slow, low and LOUD. :D
 
miroslav said:
I like your idea of using visualizations that are not so common and applying them to music
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This sounds like a great idea, I think we should create a thread here with that theme. For instance I say, I want someone to play something resembling a caffinated hyperactive chipmunck bouncing though the trees. Now I expect to hear a musical interpretation from someone, then that someone should nominate the next visualization.

:D
 
miroslav said:
It may only make sense to you...unless you take the time to describe what it is you are talking about, in which case why bother to use terminology that has no/little meaning to a musician.
Like you mentioned...playhing like "the sun" may evoke a certain sound/style in your mind...but most people will have their own idea of what that means. So, if you then have to explain it to them, to play heavy, raw, mean...why not just say "play heavy, raw, mean"....? :)

I like your idea of using visualizations that are not so common and applying them to music...but the minute you begin to work with other musicians, there has to be a common language everyone understands..

Heck, I'm still not sure what "a woolly mammoth lumbering through the trees" is supposed to sound *to you*...but I would play it slow, low and LOUD. :D
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In the process I usually end up figuring out how to explain it to them in terms they understand. But there is something lost for me if it is purely prescribed rather than captured in heart. It isn't as much about the rythm up front as it is about the tone. I'm not sure why it is all so visual for me.

Your definition of the sound is correct. It is low, and sweeping ... foghornesque tone. The ground is uneven where the animal walks, so it's gait is not perfect and it bumps into a few trees, but it is moving forward nonetheless.

Tone is a big part of the songs for me.... and it has to be representative of the lyrics. It is almost theatrical in a sense. Matching the sounds to the thoughts. In the time I've been working through this stuff, I've found the tones I like in several songs, but have never found anyone who can do much more than "noodle" or "jam" .... so the tone is established, but the other dynamics are still missing.

I have a song about the Berring Sea and a cold miserable death. A decent guitar player laid down some licks to it that were in time, and in key - but his tones were way wrong. It ended up sounding Hawaiian. Turning what should have been a cold nautical tale into a pineapple drink in a coconut shell.
 
miroslav said:
Heck, I'm still not sure what "a woolly mammoth lumbering through the trees" is supposed to sound *to you*...but I would play it slow, low and LOUD. :D
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Mastadons first album?
 
Ok I was meaning drift as meaning to go off the exact tempo but not by much. Yeah you could call it humanize but it is more than just humanize.

G
 
Better.....Stronger.....Faster......And much more expensive. :)
 
It was just funny the way it was worded...but I get what you meant. :D
 
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