Too Pretty for Porn

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Hey, I just did this ditty.

Any advice and comments are always welcome.

A few things I'm not sure about:

Vocals might need de-essing???

Snare too loud during the choppy beat and not loud enough during the straight chorus parts???

Bass not present enough???

Opening riff guit is too distorted??? Or just plain sounds like crap????

Thanx alot for any help.

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Intro guitar has way too much distortion. But it sounds cool. So I don't see it as a problem.

...And I do hear some sibilance in the voice, sounds too "airy" for lack of a better term...

Other than that I think it sounds good. Vocals are way out front but still fit well, not sure how...:confused:
 
Thanx alot Danny....I agree with your points. I do find the guit too distorted, but I liked it less when I tried the same part with less distortion, so I wasn't sure what to do. I just went with what I thought sounded best at the time. I might re-track it.

Like all tunes I post, this is just a first mix and I'll re-mix it a million times, I'm sure. Thanx for your ears, dude.
 
I like the distorted intro - wouldn't work any other way.
The bass intro needs a hair more vol.
The bass drops away a little in the she's to refrain but come straight up after.
Vocals are a bit up front but it works a treat - you're becoming more comfortable with your voice I think & starting to give it some deserved space.
A little exp treatment of the sibs might work on it.
I love the Revolver style backward guits - well placed too.
B vox are excellent!
Another top job - I look forward to the remix.
The harmonies outro is really good.
 
The intonation on the bass in the intro sounds a hair off. The bass level is fine during the verse, but as Ray says it seems lower on the chorus. I think that's a symptom of the vocals taking your attention.

The two guitar parts left and right are not equal in balance but that's not a problem - it's actually quite ingenious. It works well. :cool:

How did you get that reverse sounding guitar break?

Ending harmonies are good but the very last voice is ever so slightly off. Can you mix it out and something else in?

This has got to be one of the most unique topics I've heard for a song.
So will you post a pic of the subject so we can evaluate for ourselves? :D

You've got an immense amount of work in this and it turned out very well; any remixing will be minor at best.....:cool:
 
im not to great at recording yet, so my opinion doesnt mean shit, so Ill just say that it sounds really good to me, and I really like the idea of the song, super cool.
 
rayc said:
I like the distorted intro - wouldn't work any other way.
The bass intro needs a hair more vol.
The bass drops away a little in the she's to refrain but come straight up after.
Vocals are a bit up front but it works a treat - you're becoming more comfortable with your voice I think & starting to give it some deserved space.
A little exp treatment of the sibs might work on it.
I love the Revolver style backward guits - well placed too.
B vox are excellent!
Another top job - I look forward to the remix.
The harmonies outro is really good.
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Thanx alot, Ray. A fw people have mentioned the vocals are up front. Do you guys mean all over the tune, or just the chorus or verse??? Only because I feel the vocals in the verses are hard to get to sit right, so to me they sound low. But I've lost perspective because I spent the whole day working on the tune. I should probably let it sit for a day or two.
ido1957 said:
The intonation on the bass in the intro sounds a hair off. The bass level is fine during the verse, but as Ray says it seems lower on the chorus. I think that's a symptom of the vocals taking your attention.

The two guitar parts left and right are not equal in balance but that's not a problem - it's actually quite ingenious. It works well. :cool:

How did you get that reverse sounding guitar break?

Ending harmonies are good but the very last voice is ever so slightly off. Can you mix it out and something else in?

This has got to be one of the most unique topics I've heard for a song.
So will you post a pic of the subject so we can evaluate for ourselves? :D

You've got an immense amount of work in this and it turned out very well; any remixing will be minor at best.....:cool:
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Hey Ido...Thanx alot....

My ears aren't good enough to hear the intonation you're talking about. Should I just get rid of that part, it's not that important a part. Or, is it not bad enough to keep???

I figure a video for this tune would be pretty interesting. :D

In the final harmonies, which one do you condider the "last voice"??? I'm not sure which part you're refering to. I never use any kind of auto-tune, so I can live with a little less-than perfect vocal part, but I would like to know which part you mean, so I can re-do it or get rid of the ending, if need be.

I really appreciate your insight whenever you take the time to comment, which is always. You're a good man, man. :D

TheCoroner said:
im not to great at recording yet, so my opinion doesnt mean shit, so Ill just say that it sounds really good to me, and I really like the idea of the song, super cool.
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Thanx Coroner...I appreciate that alot. :)
 
Heck of a ditty, and it came out great as those offten do.
I like the song, very catchy chorus.
 
Cool song, the choppy beat keeps it interesting. I don't find the intro guitar excessively distorted at all-it's more of an overdrive than distortion to me-it has a AC/DC vibe to it and Angus Young really doesn't use excessive distortion for his tone in my opinion. You use a Strat don't you? It sounds like an SG on this intro~
I think the part Ido is talking about is the ending harmony after the rise and dropping pitch. One of the 2 harmonies has a bit of a waver and cuts out slightly at the end. The end harmony is good just the same-it reminds me of the harmonies that the band Kings X use on their songs, a very tight harmony...there are a few good Kings X performances on You Tube if you want to hear a comparison, and like I said-you're harmony sounds very close to theirs.
That wasn't an actually reversed guitar solo was it? It didn't all fade in like most backwards parts do-again-a good effect though!
 
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Each time I look at the title my brain says Tom Petty for Porn! Now that's an unpleasant thought!
 
I can't say anything that has not been covered...................Cool tune man!!!:D
 
Pretty cool Rami. Only thing that stands out to me is the left guitar. It's a little harsh or maybe too loud. It's not a distortion thing, it seems to be more of an EQ thing maybe. Maybe drop it in the mix a little or smooth some of the high-mids. Everything else sounds great. Great vox, drums, and bass. :)
 
RAMI said:
Hey Ido...Thanx alot....
My ears aren't good enough to hear the intonation you're talking about. Should I just get rid of that part, it's not that important a part. Or, is it not bad enough to keep???
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It's not bad, it's just a hair off. I'd keep it - it's a very cool bass line that adds a lot to the feel of the intro... :)

RAMI said:
I figure a video for this tune would be pretty interesting. :D
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Get out yer camera! Montreal has lots of babes - but don't get caught! ;)

RAMI said:
In the final harmonies, which one do you condider the "last voice"??? I'm not sure which part you're refering to. I never use any kind of auto-tune, so I can live with a little less-than perfect vocal part, but I would like to know which part you mean, so I can re-do it or get rid of the ending, if need be.
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It's the very last voice I hear and it's panned slightly left, at 3:55....I'm not sure what your tracks are like, but I would cut/fade that just before - save the you the task of redoing it. ;)

Have you been able to get your Waves software back onto your Vista machine yet?
 
Thanx alot for all the help, guys.

I'll re-mix this with the advice I got so far. I have to bring down that intro guitar, at least when the vocals come in. Thanx Greg.

Ido, I hear the part you're talking about on the vocal. It was a last minute decision to end the song with that part acapella, so I might either fade it out before it gets to that voice, or leave it out completely. I find it might sound too much like the end of "Love in an Elevator" anyway.

I haven't put Wavelab into my PC, but I downloaded a free REAPER program, which is what I used for this.

As for the reversed guitar, yes it is reversed for the first few seconds of the solo, then it falls back into real time. For the "sitar" type sound near the end, I just copied the same part I reversed for the solo and put it through a pitch shifter to get it an octave higher.
 
Fuck! I'm an idiot. I have to share this with you guys.

I didn't mention anything about the drum mix, because I was convinced it was my imagination. But sure enough, I'm stupid.

I had un-plugged a few mics last week end, because we were doing Karoake with a bunch of people. So, I re-plugged everything, tested the mics (or so I thought), etc.....

To make a long story short, the whole time I was mixing the tune, I could swear that one overhead was brighter than the other...I convinced myself it's just because one is picking up more hi hat or whatever....Turns out, I had my snare mic plugged into the Left OV channel and vice versa. So, it runs out that when I thought I was listening to my 2 overheads, I was actually listening to one overhead and the snare mic. And when I thought I was soloing the snare, I was soloing the other overhead.

It actually made for an intersting drum sound, but it was bugging the hell out of me....NOW I figured it out.

....Got to re-do the drums now. :(
 
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.....just did a re-mix. Re-tracked the drums and adjust guitar and vocal volumes. Same link.

Thanx guys.
 
Maybe it's just me, but the drums sound 100% better than before. Well maybe not 100% but noticeably better - mainly the cymbals are nicely panned and the snare and toms seem snappier. Panning and snap - that's it...

The ending is better - the way you ended it works good. I did want this to end on the first "pretty" right from the first time I heard it though. That's just a personal preference. That might be similar to something else but the strength of that "pretty" could carry the ending. Again just a thought.

The rest of the mix is solid, and still sounds as good as the original version IMO. Pretty much done.... :cool:
 
sounds pretty good to me. I like the ending quite a bit. Nice vocal harmonies. I'd bring the drums down just a touch overall. I like the guitar tones fine. Very nice job!!
JasonBird
 
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