Tired of being a condenser mic whore!

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I'd go with an EV RE20. It does wonders for my voice, love it on acoustic guitar too. I've had great results with it on bass cab blended with a DI and a real nice kick sound from it too, not to mention didgerydoo
 
LemonTree said:
I'd go with an EV RE20. It does wonders for my voice, love it on acoustic guitar too. I've had great results with it on bass cab blended with a DI and a real nice kick sound from it too, not to mention didgerydoo

the re20 is a super all-arounder.
 
I have a number of high-quality ribbon microphones, and I love them, but I have to say ... get the MD 421. As others have said, your money will not buy you a really nice ribbon mic.

The 421 is the Swiss Army knife of microphones. There is hardly anything it won't do a pretty good job at, and it does a fine job with vocals and guitar speakers, not to mention drums and woodwinds, esp. saxophones.

I have a pair of 421 Mk II, and I hadn't used them for a while. I broke 'em out for a live gig last week and was reminded again how much I like them (a lot).

I have a videocassette of clips of live Beatles performances, and in general the sound sucks. But there's one clip where they're using 421s as vocal mics, and the sound is very good.

The RE20 and SM7 are very good mics but are not as versatile as the 421 IMO. The 441 is an excellent mic but out of your price range. I have them all.
 
lpdeluxe said:
Get the ribbon.

I recently acquired a beyerdynamic M-130 and I hope that this afternoon I'll have the opportunity to use it with a cardioid condensor for some S-M recording. I still need a really high gain pre, but I can make do with what I have.

I second the ribbon...dynamics are nothing special, Ribbons are classy. Beyer m130/m160 and also the new shinybox ribbons are getting accolades..

lpdeluxe...high gain pre...www.davelectronics.com/bg1.htm ;)
 
AGCurry said:
I have a number of high-quality ribbon microphones, and I love them, but I have to say ... get the MD 421. As others have said, your money will not buy you a really nice ribbon mic.

The 421 is the Swiss Army knife of microphones. There is hardly anything it won't do a pretty good job at, and it does a fine job with vocals and guitar speakers, not to mention drums and woodwinds, esp. saxophones.

I have a pair of 421 Mk II, and I hadn't used them for a while. I broke 'em out for a live gig last week and was reminded again how much I like them (a lot).

I have a videocassette of clips of live Beatles performances, and in general the sound sucks. But there's one clip where they're using 421s as vocal mics, and the sound is very good.

The RE20 and SM7 are very good mics but are not as versatile as the 421 IMO. The 441 is an excellent mic but out of your price range. I have them all.

So (just to clarify) you're saying the RSM-2 or RSM-1 just aren't even in the ballpark, right?

I am leaning towards the 421 II.
 
BigRay said:
I second the ribbon...dynamics are nothing special, Ribbons are classy. Beyer m130/m160 and also the new shinybox ribbons are getting accolades..

lpdeluxe...high gain pre...www.davelectronics.com/bg1.htm ;)

This is where my predicament lies. I want the smooth classic sound of a ribbon. I know a Royer 121 sounds awesome on Guitar. My friend Simon used one on Steve Lukather for the newest Toto record (not released in the US) and it sounds awesome! (Sonically this record is outstanding, recorded with mostly Shure KSMs and Rode and Royer mics)

I just haven't heard that the Nady's or Shineybox are close to the Royers, and I can't shell out $1200 for a Royer. Hence the tendancy to go towards the Sennheiser or SM7 or RE20.
 
PhilGood said:
This is where my predicament lies. I want the smooth classic sound of a ribbon. I know a Royer 121 sounds awesome on Guitar. My friend Simon used one on Steve Lukather for the newest Toto record (not released in the US) and it sounds awesome! (Sonically this record is outstanding, recorded with mostly Shure KSMs and Rode and Royer mics)

I just haven't heard that the Nady's or Shineybox are close to the Royers, and I can't shell out $1200 for a Royer. Hence the tendancy to go towards the Sennheiser or SM7 or RE20.

My first ribbon mic was an Oktava ML-52 because I wanted to see what a ribbon was all about. It was not a particularly good microphone. In light of my ribbon acquisitions since (AEAs, Shures, Beyerdynamics), I must consider the cost of the ML-52 as wasted.

I'm just saying: Buy quality the first time, and you won't waste any money.

Unfortunately, that may mean you can't afford a quality ribbon mic right now. But you CAN afford a high-quality moving-coil dynamic. It won't sound like a Royer, but it will sound good.
 
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