The way it SHOULD have been done.

[7string]

Ok, here's a song that I've putzed around with for years. Since the late 60's, the summer before you were born, I've been playing this song in this arrangement. This is the way it should have been done. Now I just have to refine the mix, with your help of course. Lady and gentlepeople, I give you...

The Letter.

 

[BRIEFCASEMANX]

Ok, here's a song that I've putzed around with for years. Since the late 60's, the summer before you were born, I've been playing this song in this arrangement. This is the way it should have been done. Now I just have to refine the mix, with your help of course. Lady and gentlepeople, I give you...

The Letter.

In my opinion I'd say less reverb/delay stuff on the vocals. Maybe cut some low end from the EQ if you have an EQ setting on the reverb. I am inexperienced though.

 

[grn]

late 60's eh? the arrangement sounds like late 70s, early 80s to me... drums sound extremely synth... way too much reverb on vocal and guitar. the vocal sounds very boxy, like the room it was tracked in was not great. take some reverb off the guitar, double track the guitar parts maybe and separate them? panning is weird, drums on left, guitar on right, very beatles though.

 

[grn]

oh and you're going a little nuts on the guitar fills/solos there... sometimes it's what you don't play that counts

 

[Alexbt]

It's a bit too bassy to me. I don't hear much for mids.

I like the fills. And the drums are cool, but I don't think they match the 80s style that this song has. Maybe with some different EQ they would work better.

 

[7string]

late 60's eh? the arrangement sounds like late 70s, early 80s to me... drums sound extremely synth... way too much reverb on vocal and guitar. the vocal sounds very boxy, like the room it was tracked in was not great. take some reverb off the guitar, double track the guitar parts maybe and separate them? panning is weird, drums on left, guitar on right, very beatles though.

Actually the drums are straight up with the toms panned. Electric rthym guitar panned a bit left, acoustic rthym guitar panned a bit right and solo guitar panned a bit more right.

I've been playing around with some different verb and delay techniques. Panning them left and right, etc. I knew it needed some tweaking. I was depending on you guys as to how much.

Yeah, late 60's. I played it this way in bands back in that era. I came up with this arrangement during the In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida days.

 

[7string]

It's a bit too bassy to me. I don't hear much for mids.

I like the fills. And the drums are cool, but I don't think they match the 80s style that this song has. Maybe with some different EQ they would work better.

80's style? hahaha... ok... I'll take your word for it. I hate trying to fix the low end. I never get it right. But I'll tweak some more and post a remix in a day or so for everybody's perusal. Thanks!

 

[Toki987]

I boosted the area from 2,000 to 3,750 about 3 db. On the low end I picked up 60hz by about 2.5 db and rolled off everything below that and it let that kick come out a bit more. It sounds pretty good here. I like the arrangement. The rythym guitar could come up a bit more. Gently shelving the eq down starting at about 12000 gets that air sound out of the cymbals.

 

[7string]

I boosted the area from 2,000 to 3,750 about 3 db. On the low end I picked up 60hz by about 2.5 db and rolled off everything below that and it let that kick come out a bit more. It sounds pretty good here. I like the arrangement. The rythym guitar could come up a bit more. Gently shelving the eq down starting at about 12000 gets that air sound out of the cymbals.

If you don't start speaking ENGLISH to me!!!!! I don't EQ the mix. Just the individual tracks. But that gives me something to think about and tweak.

Which rythm gutar? Acoustic or electric?

Remember, EQ is one of my many Achille's Heel's. So when you talk about shelving...

 

[Phyl]

Nice guitar work, vocal treatment was interesting too. Overall an interesting rework of the original.

My only nit is the drums, they sound heavily gated and/or compressed...kind of lifeless.

Which part of NE Michigan? I'm from Traverse City.

 

[7string]

Nice guitar work, vocal treatment was interesting too. Overall an interesting rework of the original.

My only nit is the drums, they sound heavily gated and/or compressed...kind of lifeless.

Which part of NE Michigan? I'm from Traverse City.

The drums are an SR-16. They ARE lifeless... I'm on the OTHER lake, in Oscrotum. It's just north of Twatas and a bit further south of Alpenis.

 

[7string]

late 60's eh? the arrangement sounds like late 70s, early 80s to me... drums sound extremely synth... way too much reverb on vocal and guitar. the vocal sounds very boxy, like the room it was tracked in was not great. take some reverb off the guitar, double track the guitar parts maybe and separate them? panning is weird, drums on left, guitar on right, very beatles though.

I've run it a few times with no verb on the vocal at all, just a touch of delay to see what it sounds like. It must be my ears. When I get the verb or delay to where I like it, everybody else says it's too much. So now I try to bring them in to where I like them and then back them off a bit. Then again, sometimes I'm GOING for that effect. I have another song that is very Floydish and there are twin guitars in one spot that I wanted to sound like they were coming out of a cave. To me it sounds like I want it to. I'm sure that everybody here would think it is WAY too much.

The room EVERYTHING is tracked in is not great. It's a small bedroom.

 

[Emusic]

Great voice. Agree on the verb stuff - too much. Nice schredding
Guitar panned too much to the side for me.

 

[7string]

Great voice. Agree on the verb stuff - too much. Nice schredding
Guitar panned too much to the side for me.

I agree. I bumped it out a bit because it was occupying the same as the acoustic and then I thought it was too far away from the rest of the mix. I moved it back slowly until it sounded more a part of the song.

Why is it that I get the verb and delay sounding good to ME and everybody else says it's too much? It makes me not want to trust myself again.

Thanks for the comments and the compliment!

 

[7string]

Remix

Ok, I've done a bit of tweaking. Is this better? I hope?

 

[Dogman]

Well, I liked this version of this song. Pretty drum heavy, but that does give it a different feel. I like it's a more rock version than the original.
Ed