The truth about Studio Projects mic's.

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I don't think it's a petty detail at all... in fact, I think it's as important of a detail as PMI does. Who really designed the B1 and CR1000... PMI or 797 Audio? Note: 797 Audio has their name on both the B1 and CR1000.
 
ausrock said:
Grow up boy.

BTW, as of now you are on ignore.
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Go ahead and stick your head in the sand like a big bird if you want... I don't care.
 
The C4's are very good drum overhead mics, I haven't used any others. I would ask Alan Hyatt and see if he'll tell you. He can be found in forums and via email.

And by the way, I'm with you that it's a point of interest. If the mics are good, I'd still buy them but they claim they're not OEM.

Warren
 
So there's the bottom line: go ask Alice... er, Alan. I recently sent PMI a question about my B1s and received a lengthy reply from him personally a few days later. If you really want to know more about the SP mics' origin, I'm sure he'll tell you most of what you need. And as someone else said, whatever the truth is, it's Alan and his crew that stand by the SP mics and lend support to
purchasing these fine budget mics via SP.

Over and out,
J.
 
I used my SP B1s again at a live festival and had a whole Celtic band running through the suckers - six people on stage; one fiddle though a MXL 603s, the upright string bass direct, one guitar through an SM57. The mandolin, all vocals, the Uilleann pipes, the concertina and the percussion went through a pair of ambient B1s. They kicked butt all over the county with that setup and the B1s just cranked. No feedback, no misbehavior. I was getting sound instead.

Thanks, Alan! :cool:
 
I already asked Alan a long time ago who the design engineer(s) were and never got an answer from him.
 
I can only see a use for this thread if you had some great B1 technique that you would like to give to 797 users. That does not appear to be the case.

Follow these simple rules:



ONE: If a mic sounds good, use it.

TWO: If it doesn't sound good, throw it out.

THREE: If it sounds good but you hate the guy who built it, sell it off.


Where the hell is the confusion here? HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH THIS FORMULA?
 
DJL said:
I already asked Alan a long time ago who the design engineer(s) were and never got an answer from him.
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Alan probably has you on ignore, too.

Does it really matter who designed the B1?

Who designed the MXL V67? It looks just like a Felio mike. Does that mean MXL is trying to pull one over, too? What about ADK? The A-51 type III's I've got look like the MXL V63. Is ADK a bunch of lying bastards too?

But, if it makes you feel better, keep asking people who don't know the answer, in your pathetic little attempt to make Studio Projects and Alan Hyatt look bad.

Go Rain Man, go!
 
As I stated earlier in this thread... there is another thread on this forum that stimulated my "Is the Studio Projects B1 just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000" question, and I posted the link to that thread. If you Studio Projects mic lovers want to hate me and flame me for asking questions... fine. But, it would be nicer to get some documented answers instead. So, with that said, I'm asking the question again.

Is the Studio Projects B1 just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic... and if not, who is the design engineer(s)?
 
And who exactly on this board is going to be qualified to answer that question?

Ask Alan Hyatt. If he ignores you, you should know why.

Asking that question to the forum members is just your way of trying to take a shot at Studio Projects and Alan Hyatt. No one on this board will know the answer, and you know that.

But you're not looking for an answer, are you?

Go, Rain Man, go!
 
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ok - go to this page:

http://www.797audio.com/newoem.htm

see where it says "797AUDIO made new microphone samples, they will be sold by the end of 2001, ALL for OEM.　"

Now click on the OEM Microphone　 link in the left hand nav. Even tho the url is incorrect, it is clear they are referring to studio projects as OEM. Thus, it only confirms that 797 builds the b1 for SP.
 
DJL said:
Is the Studio Projects B1 just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000 mic... and if not, who is the design engineer(s)?
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It looks like the SP B1, B3 and TB1 were all built by 797 exclusively for Studio Projects, unless you can find one somewhere for sale without the Studio Projects logo on it. Whether anyone connected with Studio Projects actually had any input into its design is irrelevant.

DJL, it is up to you to find a non Studio Projects CR1000, CR2000 or TB1000 for sale somewhere. Otherwise, the mics are exclusively SP's, your original question is meaningless, and you should just shut the fuck up about all things concerning SP.
 
The Truth About Studio Projects Mics...

Is that they kick proverbial butt in their respective markets. All good mics; some are frighteningly good for the money, and the owners have a reputation for responding if you have an issue.

How do we say s a t i s f i e d c u s t o m e r ?

The real debates about SP mics have to do with personal preferences, appropriate applications and the tendency newbies like me have of evangelizing about them before we get experience with a shelf full of thousand dollar beauties. :D
 
DJL,

you shouldnt try and make it a SP lovers against you issue......noone likes to bust Alan's balls more than me, and all will agree with that statement.........but i do think this question you are asking is a stab by you at SP whether you admit it or not because:

A) noone here is qualified to answer that except for Studio Projects and 797 Audio and

B) you know damn well neither of them are gonna answer you here



now if you catch Alan lying about it, I will be there for the ball busting.......otherwise, as stated earlier, ask someone who gives a damn.....
 
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72508&perpage=25&highlight=797&pagenumber=1

from this thread back in January:




AUSROCK : DJL, Why the obsessive interest in 797..........




DJL: The only obsessive interest I have is in girls, lol. But, I am a mic junky and I do think BEIJING 797 AUDIO makes some great mic's for Studio Projects so I'd like to know what other companies BEIJING 797 AUDIO Co.,Ltd makes mic's for.

Does anyone have a list?



ALAN HYATT: There are some things you should keep in mind. Many mics are off the shelf and have no changes. Some brands that come out of the same factory make claims that they have made changes, but many do not.

This is why we keep our doors open. We have had several people into our facility to see how we design and what we do. The reason we get what we get from 797 is that it is built to our exact specification. If it is not, we dont accept it.

We design our mics, not pick them from a a catalog. So while other brands may claim they do design, I would like to see their design team and their R&D Department. They can surely see mine.

797 sells parts to RODE, and they build some models for Berringer and ADK, but the bulk of the stuff comes out of Feilo and SoundKing. All of our models are built by 797.
 
From looking at the 797 site it seems pretty obvious that the B1 is made as an OEM product, to whatever was/is the agreed upon specification.

All companies should be as helpful as PMI is. I think it's too bad that we have a reliable outfit that produces excellent products for the money (perhaps an industry standard for value and customer service), and they repeatedly get bashed on this forum, for no rational reason.

I just made another commercial tonight for an out-of-state client, using the B1 for my voiceover. What a great microphone this is! Personally, I don't care if came off a shelf on the Titanic. The fact is, there are a lot of companies out there that are larger than PMI, but their interest in the customer doesn't approach what I've gotten from PMI. I can call up PMI with the absolute dumbest question on one of their products, and I always get a prompt, clear and helpful response. All this at a time when "customer service" in the US usually means 20 minute hold times and a "tech" who knows nothing about the product they are trying to support.

Having read both the PMI site's info and PR related to the B1, along with the 797 web pages, I see no inconsistency or problems in what's being promoted to the customer.

There is however a problem with a forum supposedly intended to be of benefit to the home recording community that gets turned into a platform of baseless and incessant innuendo -- consistently directed at one of the best companies one could ever do business with IN ANY FIELD.
 
This thread is not about if the 797 Audio B1 is a good mic or not, and it's not about PMI customer service or crazydoc humping his rabbit and etc. The thread is about "Is the Studio Projects B1 just an off-the-shelf 797 Audio CR1000... and if not, who is the design engineer(s)? If you don't know the answer, you don't need to reply with a smartass answer, hint, flame, or etc.
 
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