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endserenading81
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damn, didn't reply in time before the "waaaaa waaaaaa waaaaaa" comment came in....... these guys are fast.......... unwasted talent
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jonnyc
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stalemayte said:Good luck on spending way too much money for a pretty interface, and subpar internals.
But I guess you are also paying for membership into the "I wear scarfs and frequent coffee shops" club.
Don't forget to place the Apple sticker on your backwindow, right next to the gay-rights one.
I couldn't resist the impulse to flame
Never worn a scarf, been to a coffee shop once, had a triple espresso and couldn't get a hard on for a week. It was better than coke.
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metal_god
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I use both PC (home) MAC (College) and my PC is more reliable. Logic always crashes its not like they are bad systems either. Neither are connected to the internet. I find PC's with no intrnet access well maintained and properly used is the best sollution. Hell my pc was £500 from toys r us
160gb hdd
512 mb ram
3.2 ghz processor (celeron)
windows xp home
not the best in the world but it runs perfectly for Reason, Sonar, Cooledit or whatever else i need to use and can run them at the same time without much slowdown.
160gb hdd
512 mb ram
3.2 ghz processor (celeron)
windows xp home
not the best in the world but it runs perfectly for Reason, Sonar, Cooledit or whatever else i need to use and can run them at the same time without much slowdown.
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Agent47
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I ran a P3 550mHz Win98 with 312Mb RAM and 8Gb + 40Gb HDs. Ran mainly Cubase VST 5 and Sound Forge 4.5 without problems from 2001 to November 2005 without problem.
The last project was song production for a client on it using about 10 stereo tracks for audio and 6 monos for vocals, soft synths, audio fx, automation and lots of MIDI. Not a problem, even though it was getting on a bit.
I now have a P4 3.6gHz XP Home with 2Gb RAM and 80Gb + 200Gb HDs. This time with Cubase SX3 and Sound Forge 8. Again, no problems at all. I'm mid way through writing a ton of music and sound design for an online game, which is a well-paid project from a regular client, and I have absolute, total confidence in my set-up.
It isn't a Mac or PC issue - it's simply what the internal components you chose for it (you did choose them didn't you?), and how well you've set it up to do the work you want.
The last project was song production for a client on it using about 10 stereo tracks for audio and 6 monos for vocals, soft synths, audio fx, automation and lots of MIDI. Not a problem, even though it was getting on a bit.
I now have a P4 3.6gHz XP Home with 2Gb RAM and 80Gb + 200Gb HDs. This time with Cubase SX3 and Sound Forge 8. Again, no problems at all. I'm mid way through writing a ton of music and sound design for an online game, which is a well-paid project from a regular client, and I have absolute, total confidence in my set-up.
It isn't a Mac or PC issue - it's simply what the internal components you chose for it (you did choose them didn't you?), and how well you've set it up to do the work you want.
Ford Van
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endserenading81 said:
I found Cubase to be a PITA anyway. Dump it and go with something more straight ahead.
For free, if you can put up with having to update every week for a while, and a few "bugs", REAPER is shaping up to be a great straight ahead recording/editing/mixing app. Really, it is quite good, just not quite ready either. But, I think it would be QUITE easy to figure out, and the developer hangs at his forum quite a bit.
http://www.cockos.com/reaper/
Sonar is quite good too.
Using an older version of Cubase really is not a fair way to compare PC's and Mac's.
On a side note, I have NEVER had good experiences with Mac's and audio production. Without fail, the Mac has crashed every time I have worked in a ProTools session. Also, with Digital Performer.
I agree that if you can't get a PC working well, you will most likely have problems with a Mac too.
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jonnyc
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Ford Van said:On a side note, I have NEVER had good experiences with Mac's and audio production. Without fail, the Mac has crashed every time I have worked in a ProTools session. Also, with Digital Performer.
Come on over and I'll show you that macs don't crash every single time you use them. That really is a bullshit statement and its the second time I'll call you out on it. I do not believe for one second that every single time you worked on a mac on pro tools it crashed. Nobody on this earth would put up with that as their DAW. It would've been out the door day one. I push my measly g5 to the limits on track and plug in count and it keeps trucking along.
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zekthedeadcow
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ah! the BT Challenge..
http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?storycode=12191
granted he's probably using a couple hundred tracks...
http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?storycode=12191
granted he's probably using a couple hundred tracks...
mrT
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endserenading81 said:
I'd def agree that cubase is your problem. Your computer doesn't look outdated or underpowered. Although you don't list a graphics card. If you don't have one GET ONE. It will speed up your computer a lot more than you think. If you're looking for a better comp though I'd just look to grab another motherboard and processor. and for god sake get XP Pro It just works better. (Disclamer: I in no way inteneded that statement to be an endorsement of Bill Gates... he is the devil!). Look at someplace like Tiger Direct for a barebones kit. It'll come with a case motherboard, CPU and power supply. Why buy hardware you already have or start from scratch. You can just pop in the stuff you have and go from there.
btw, I run:
MSI 845GE Max
P4 2.0Ghz
1Gig DDR 333
200gb WD 7,200
80gb WD 7,200
ARTEC CDRW
LiteOn DVD-ROM (P.O.S.)
ATI All In Wonder 7500
M-Audio Delta 24/96 (gift from FedEX)
Adobe Audition 2.0
Cool Edit 1.2a (occasionally)
Fruity Loops 3
Cubase SX 1.02
P.S. this is 3 year old machine and it still runs like new when I want it too. Oh. I just baught a G3 with OS 9.2 and decided to leave it run overnight. When I got back to it the OS had it so bogged down I had to manually restart it. There aren't any programs on it so it had to be the OS. rebooted and everything was fine. That is to say that Mac's and PC's are the same thing minus some symantic BS and a different OS.
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Tim Brown
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metal_god said:
When I was in college, we had Mac's running Logic 7.0 in the Audio lab as well as in the Studio and I never saw a single one of them crash the entire time I was there. Of course, they had nothing on them but Logic Pro 7.0 - so that may be the difference.
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altiris
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That’s the problem. Some people load their Pc with every program tools, antispyware, anti virus, desktop toys, 50 games, yahoo messenger, msn messenger, aol messenger and a bunch of freeware plugins. And so on and so on. And complain “My PC is slow”. I’ve fixed a couple of PC’s where owner was asking for a recommendation for a new PC because theirs was old and too slow. It was only a year old with a late Pentium 4. but that PC was loaded up with garbage. Heres a little bit of advice. Don’t let anyone touch your DAW. Cause the minute they do they will get on the internet and ruin your baby.
mrT
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altiris said:
AMEN! All anyone needs for spyware is 3 programs. Microsoft Anti-spy, Adaware free version, and spybot search and destroy AND they are all FREE. that's it. they'll get rid of almost any spy/malware that threatens your PC. If they don't, then you got one bad ass bug (they do happen). You can pick up AVG (antivirus) for free too. With those 4 tools you can keep your PC healthy. Altiris is 100% right though. NEVER let someone who you don't know have unsupervised access to your comp. They will without fail download something bad, install something bad, or in some way find a surefire method for fucking up your PC. SO I guess there's one for Mac's. Nobody gives a shit enough to write viruses and spyware for them. go figure.
peritus
The not fountain head
3 things...
Learn about MSCONFIG.EXE
Kill any any "Tray" applications... Winamp Agent is a prime example... Adobe Reader updater is another...
After that... Make a list of the processes running in the task manager.. Google each one... Find out, just where, that power is going....
haha.. I'm typing from a 50 dollar 500mhz p3 laptop and I'm sure I could squeeze out plenty of power, if need be...
Learn about MSCONFIG.EXE
Kill any any "Tray" applications... Winamp Agent is a prime example... Adobe Reader updater is another...
After that... Make a list of the processes running in the task manager.. Google each one... Find out, just where, that power is going....
haha.. I'm typing from a 50 dollar 500mhz p3 laptop and I'm sure I could squeeze out plenty of power, if need be...
mrT
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peritus said:
Dude, I got this one bug that imbedded itself as a .dll in winlogon.exe so I couldn't delete it even in safe mode because I couldn't kill winlogon. Too boot it changed it's name every time I restarted. pissed me off. I just had to wait till I found a removal tool for it. but that's a little off topic I guess.
peritus
The not fountain head
mrT said:Dude, I got this one bug that imbedded itself as a .dll in winlogon.exe so I couldn't delete it even in safe mode because I couldn't kill winlogon. Too boot it changed it's name every time I restarted. pissed me off. I just had to wait till I found a removal tool for it. but that's a little off topic I guess.
I'm from the old school.. If it doesn't work right.. rebuild it... I keep all "my documents" on a seperate harddrive/partition as the system... I wipe the system drive and start from scratch bout twice a year, to keep things in shape... New drivers can open up new planes of nirvana....
altiris
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you got hit by a variant of coolweb search. yea that’s a pain because it changes name every reboot.mrT said:Dude, I got this one bug that imbedded itself as a .dll in winlogon.exe so I couldn't delete it even in safe mode because I couldn't kill winlogon. Too boot it changed it's name every time I restarted. pissed me off. I just had to wait till I found a removal tool for it. but that's a little off topic I guess.
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endserenading81
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OH, my video card is a MSI Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128 RAM.
OH, my video card is a MSI Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128 RAM.