That "tone deafness" discussion...

[spantini]

Our guitar player began taking vocal lessons, and he told me he was told that what we hear in our inner ears as on pitch
can often be flat in actuality. We should practice learning what correct pitch sounds like in our inner ears.

 

[easlern]

I’ve read that high sound levels in headphones can make things sound lower-pitched than they really are, so I’m always sure to keep my headphones at a moderate level. But I’m having a hard time confirming that’s really true.

Edit: I found a diagram at the end of this slide series that shows how intensity affects pitch. The whole series is interesting though. http://www2.bcs.rochester.edu/courses/crsinf/221/15.pdf

 

[andrushkiwt]

I’ve read that high sound levels in headphones can make things sound lower-pitched than they really are, so I’m always sure to keep my headphones at a moderate level. But I’m having a hard time confirming that’s really true.

Edit: I found a diagram at the end of this slide series that shows how intensity affects pitch. The whole series is interesting though. http://www2.bcs.rochester.edu/courses/crsinf/221/15.pdf

Interesting. But why do they say this: "Pitch is subjective, and cannot be measured directly" - I mean, what is a guitar tuner doing, if not directly measuring pitch?

 

[easlern]

Interesting. But why do they say this: "Pitch is subjective, and cannot be measured directly" - I mean, what is a guitar tuner doing, if not directly measuring pitch?

I guess they’re making a distinction between pitch and frequency. Like maybe frequency is the measurement, pitch is its perception. So technically you tune your guitar to a frequency, not a pitch. Except when you tune by ear. ��