Tell me if this will work

[tanlith]

Re: What about the recording space????

And for you guys saying a click track is a MUST have.......listen to some Zappa....like Make A Jazz Noise Here or The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life.

Both of those albums were recorded 100% completely live with no overdubs of any kind....

............from a whole tour's worth of performances, cut and pasted to make the albums.

I highly doubt he used a click track live.

He just had some of the best musicians in the world and they practiced like freaks.

-mike

Ummm you just countered your own argument about click tracks!??!?! I said earlier that if a person uses a click track in the studio pretty much all the time, his live performance WILL improve significantly. The fact that this album was done from all live recodings from a tour serves to support that fact... it also has no place within the debate about click tracks... if the whole album(s) was taken from live performance clips... than it wasn't recorded in a studio... therefore it's irrelevant to the argument (which is based on studio recording)

The only time a drummer should use a click track outside a studio is in his own basement to help improve his timing.

And for argument's sake, I'm sure all the pro's (ummm - NOT saying I'm a pro) here would definitely agree that Zappa was pretty much a GOD in the control room. The man had a golden ear and the touch to match!




- Tanlith -

 

[chessrock]

i know garbage in garbage out.....but right now garbage is better than nothing

It sounds like you're not really expecting too much out of this . . . so I don't really understand why you're worrying about it.

If all you need are rough demos for song writing / develping purposes, then any old method will do. Make it easier on yourself and just play live and stick a couple of mics up in the room. Get a mini-cassette and just hit record for cryin' out loud.

That's about all you really need.

 

[FZfile]

I dont know if I contradicted myself .....

....only because I dont believe Zappa's bands practiced to a click.

But your right, tanlith.....slightly irrelavent to the topic. Sorry.

I think Tex has stated the best reason of all for using a click in the situation Jtrain42 asked about in the 1st place.

For purposes of writing and arranging having a click will deffinitley make life easier to play around with song sections and have consistant "fits" for the sections of a song.
And it sounds like writing and arranging is what Jtrain42's main goal is.

Chess is right too, dont stress too much about mics and mixes for writing ....just get those ideas out.

-mike

 

[tanlith]

Re: I dont know if I contradicted myself .....

....only because I dont believe Zappa's bands practiced to a click.

But your right, tanlith.....slightly irrelavent to the topic. Sorry.

No harm no foul... I just like a good argument hehehe

One final note on Zappa's group though... I think we can all agree they're seasoned Vets in the biz... it would be safe to say that their timing and skill would be partly due to using click in their early days...

I think Tex has stated the best reason of all for using a click in the situation Jtrain42 asked about in the 1st place.

For purposes of writing and arranging having a click will deffinitley make life easier to play around with song sections and have consistant "fits" for the sections of a song.
And it sounds like writing and arranging is what Jtrain42's main goal is.

Chess is right too, dont stress too much about mics and mixes for writing ....just get those ideas out.

-mike

Yep....

- Tanlith -