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Jimi Shelter
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Now that I have my thinking cap on….how’s this for an idea. Fostex won’t be missed these for now…
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RFR
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Ooooh. How cryptic yet promising.
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Jimi Shelter
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And!…. They don’t fit. Off by a mm. Back to the patch-cords for jumpers until my connect comes through…
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RFR
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So the Fostex has a similar jumper set up?
Just patch cord it up for now. Fire it up!
I won’t be responding till there’s good news.
Like Tom Petty says…. “The waiting……is the hardest part”
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Jimi Shelter
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Good news. I’ve got my guitar, plugged into C1, talking to C4 Board and deck. I think I may be crawling. Two more days off to learn to shuffle.
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RFR
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English please???
Are you, or are you not, getting proper signal into your tape machine??
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Jimi Shelter
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Yes! Getting signal on tape machine and board. I ordered some jumpers off the internet.
I got my electric guitar, plugged into C1 INST, assigned to C4. Signal/Meters on tape deck and mixer C4. So, yes. Got that far. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to replicate that again. But I figured it out once so I'll figure it out again. Too much board. Not sure how to set the input on the channel I want to send signal to from C1. C1 is set to INST but I'm not sure if I set the destination channel to MIC, PHONE, or TAPE. Only C1 & C2 have INST option.
I got my electric guitar, plugged into C1 INST, assigned to C4. Signal/Meters on tape deck and mixer C4. So, yes. Got that far. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to replicate that again. But I figured it out once so I'll figure it out again. Too much board. Not sure how to set the input on the channel I want to send signal to from C1. C1 is set to INST but I'm not sure if I set the destination channel to MIC, PHONE, or TAPE. Only C1 & C2 have INST option.
sweetbeats
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The MIC | LINE | INST switch is not a routing or assignment control…it is the source select switch. It sets what input jack the channel listens to. If you are trying to listen to a guitar plugged into the INST jack, as @RFR already stated earlier, the source select switch should be set to INST.
Your use of “C” for everything is really confusing. Your inputs 1-20 are channels. You sum and assign the input channel signals to the subgroups or program groups 1-8 (“PGM”), so call those group or subgroup or program group or something to differentiate them from your input channels. And then your PGM outputs go to tape tracks, not channels. Help us help you.
Your use of “C” for everything is really confusing. Your inputs 1-20 are channels. You sum and assign the input channel signals to the subgroups or program groups 1-8 (“PGM”), so call those group or subgroup or program group or something to differentiate them from your input channels. And then your PGM outputs go to tape tracks, not channels. Help us help you.
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Jimi Shelter
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Sorry about”C”. Short for Channel. Clear on selecting INST on Channel 1. I would like to keep using Channel 1 ( mics, guitars) and assign to the other channels instead of replugging. Also, Channels 1&2 have the 1/4” inputs.
Channels 1 & 2 inputs are MIC-INST-TAPE, 3 & 4 are MIC-PHONO-TAPE. All the rest are MIC-LINE-TAPE.
Can I do that? Just use Channels 1 and/or 2 and assign to the other channels?
sweetbeats
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Sorry my error on the source options for channels 1 & 2.
I don’t understand what you mean by “Just use Channels 1 and/or 2 and assign to the other channels…” Assign what to the other channels?
I don’t understand what you mean by “Just use Channels 1 and/or 2 and assign to the other channels…” Assign what to the other channels?
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RFR
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Let’s for simplicity’s sake, and to avoid confusion, let’s standardize the terms.
Channel when referring to to the mixer.
Track when referring to the tape machine.
You have plenty of channels (20)
And a bit less of tracks (8)
All channels need jumpers. Without them they won’t work. Did your guy who was supplying jumpers fall through?? You mentioned in a later post ordering some online.
Channel when referring to to the mixer.
Track when referring to the tape machine.
You have plenty of channels (20)
And a bit less of tracks (8)
All channels need jumpers. Without them they won’t work. Did your guy who was supplying jumpers fall through?? You mentioned in a later post ordering some online.
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RFR
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Regarding “assigning”……..
You can “assign” the output of any mixer channel to any tape input that you like.
Let’s say if you want to use channel one and your source is an electric guitar….
(Which by the way, sounds quite good… I’ve recorded plenty of guitar straight into the board)
You can assign the output of channel one to any tape input channel on the tape machine. Just a matter of where you plug things.
This is where a patch bay comes in handy. You can patch the mixer outputs to any tape input without going to the back of the mixer. But that’s a whole different topic for now.
Please, spend some time studying the videos posted earlier. There’s a wealth of info on them.
You can “assign” the output of any mixer channel to any tape input that you like.
Let’s say if you want to use channel one and your source is an electric guitar….
(Which by the way, sounds quite good… I’ve recorded plenty of guitar straight into the board)
You can assign the output of channel one to any tape input channel on the tape machine. Just a matter of where you plug things.
This is where a patch bay comes in handy. You can patch the mixer outputs to any tape input without going to the back of the mixer. But that’s a whole different topic for now.
Please, spend some time studying the videos posted earlier. There’s a wealth of info on them.
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RFR
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For me a patchbay is invaluable. I’m running 16 tracks of tape, 2 interfaces, one 8 channel and one 16 channel. Cable runs are real short, and being able to plug in and out, where and what I want without going to the back of the mixer is priceless.
But this thread isn’t about me and how I use my 520, so I probably shouldn’t have even brought it up.
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Jimi Shelter
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Jimi Shelter
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What I mean is: Just use INST input jack in Channel 1 & 2 (or MIC) and have them go to the other tracks. Can't I do that? I tried plugging a drum machine into the other tracks LINE inputs (RCA's) and I didn't get anything. Only Channel One or Two, do I get sound from either the guitar or drum machine.
sweetbeats
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Yes. Of course you can. That’s what the PGM ASSIGN 1-8 switches do for you. Each of those switches assigns or sends or routes the signal on the respective input channel to the correspondingly numbered PGM fader in the master section, and each of those faders feeds its correspondingly numbered PGM OUT jack on the jack panel. And then you would have those 8 output jacks connected to the 8 input jacks on your tape machine. So if you want the signal on input channel 2 to go to tape track 4, just press the PGM ASSIGN 4 switch on input channel 2, raise the PGM 4 fader, and if your tape machine is monitoring the input jacks you should see activity on the track 4 meter on the tape machine. Using the PGM groups allows you to connect any of the input channel signals to any tape track or tracks using the ASSIGN switches and PGM faders.
Other “tracks” or other input channels on the console? The inconsistent mixing and use of terminology is confusing and makes it hard to understand what you are doing and what you are talking about. If you meant to say other input channels (besides 1 & 2), let’s circle back to the basics:
IS THE SEND/RCV JUMPER INSTALLED
DO YOU HAVE THE RESPECTIVE CHANNEL’S SOURCE SELECT TOGGLE SWITCH SET TO LISTEN TO THE JACK OR JACKS TO WHICH THE DRUM MACHINE IS CONNECTED? In other words if the drum machine is connected to channel 5 LINE input (for instance), is the MIC | LINE | TAPE switch set to LINE?
Not yelling, just re-emphasizing what we’ve already covered.
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Jimi Shelter
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By other tracks, I mean just use Channels 1 & 2 inputs and have what I record go to channels 3 - 8. Those channels only have XLR or RCA inputs and the manual says Channels 1 & 2 INST inputs are essentially direct boxes.
I tried running my drum machine into Channel 8 into the Line In RCA but got nothing.
Only 1 & 2 do I get a signal.
I’m beginning to think I don’t have it hooked up to do what I’m trying to do.
I followed the manuals Basic 8 Track Patch which goes like this:
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Jimi Shelter
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Just gave it another shot.
Plugged drum machine into Channel 1 RCA INST in. Turned pan to Even and pressed 8 and pushed up that #8 buss fader over on the right side of the board under the monitor section.
Bingo!
Channel 8 VU reading drum machine plugged into Channel 1.