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stevieb
Just another guy, really.
I love my little Monkey-Wards all-tube 5-watt amp. 4 tubes total, including one rectifier and one for tremolo, and it goes well into tube-OD territory at and above about 4 on the volume control.
But it's best feature (that tube-OD) is at other times it's worst, too. There are times when I want or need a clean tone. Say what you want about solid-state, but SS does clean well- to the point of possibly being sterile, I know, but it's still clean.
DISCLAIMER: I AM GOING TO ASK SOME STUPID QUESTIONS. THIS IS UNCHARTED TERRITORY- LET'S EXPLORE IT AS A TEAM.
Already decided to put the MW chassis in a more attractive cab, and this morning I thought of this: Why not put TWO amp chassis in ONE cab? To flesh this out for you...
Cab would be about the same size and dim's as a Princeton.
For now, only SS amps I have to use for the first attempt is a Fender Bullet reverb, and a Fender Deluxe112 that has an inop. preamp circuit. I have cabs for both, but the Bullet is way too small.
I am thinking two 8'inch speakers, maybe two 10's.
Both chassis would be mounted facing forward, or maybe one facing up and one facing forward.
I am assuming that if I were to connect both amps to the same speaker, I would fry one or both of them. I have a pair of Radio Shack replacement sub-woofers, 8's, that feature two voice coils. The only way I know to make sure I don't fry one amp or the other by hooking two amps to one speaker is to use those speakers, so that electronically each amp thinks it has it's own speaker- the coils in those speakers are electrically spearated from each other; they only share the speaker cone and frame. I know subs are not ideal for guitar amps, but I know of no full-range, dual-coil speakers. Using 4 10's makes the whole thing too big. If those speakers don't work, I might go with 8's or 10's, one for each amp. If the only problem with the subs is a lack of higher-end response, could I add two mids?
I figure i could go from guitar to ABY box, from ABT box to the two amp chassis. Of course, this only works if I don't use the Deluxe112 chassis with the bad pre-amp.
I can't think of any reason that setup wouldn't work- as for it's tone, only way I know to determine that is to build it and see (hear?).
BUT- alternatives...?
Tap off MW amp's pre-amp circuit thru a switch and then to the Deluxe112's power amp?
If the dual-coil speakers don't sound good, is there a fairly simple circuit I can build to protect each amp from the other? (This assumes I want to have both speakers wired to both amps.)
Assuming the project is a success, build a foot switch that will:
Turn tremolo on MW amp on/off (easy, MW amp already has footswitch jack);
Turn reverb on SS amp on/off (could be easy if donor amp has reverb fw, but what if it does not?)
Houses ABY footswitch, and run TRS cable from ABY to amps?
Includes channel switch for SS amp (assuming SS amp has channel switching, 'natch). This plus the tube pre might result in a "Clean/Drive/More Drive" sort of setup, similar to a Hot Rod Deluxe.
Edumacate me, here! Thanks.
But it's best feature (that tube-OD) is at other times it's worst, too. There are times when I want or need a clean tone. Say what you want about solid-state, but SS does clean well- to the point of possibly being sterile, I know, but it's still clean.
DISCLAIMER: I AM GOING TO ASK SOME STUPID QUESTIONS. THIS IS UNCHARTED TERRITORY- LET'S EXPLORE IT AS A TEAM.
Already decided to put the MW chassis in a more attractive cab, and this morning I thought of this: Why not put TWO amp chassis in ONE cab? To flesh this out for you...
Cab would be about the same size and dim's as a Princeton.
For now, only SS amps I have to use for the first attempt is a Fender Bullet reverb, and a Fender Deluxe112 that has an inop. preamp circuit. I have cabs for both, but the Bullet is way too small.
I am thinking two 8'inch speakers, maybe two 10's.
Both chassis would be mounted facing forward, or maybe one facing up and one facing forward.
I am assuming that if I were to connect both amps to the same speaker, I would fry one or both of them. I have a pair of Radio Shack replacement sub-woofers, 8's, that feature two voice coils. The only way I know to make sure I don't fry one amp or the other by hooking two amps to one speaker is to use those speakers, so that electronically each amp thinks it has it's own speaker- the coils in those speakers are electrically spearated from each other; they only share the speaker cone and frame. I know subs are not ideal for guitar amps, but I know of no full-range, dual-coil speakers. Using 4 10's makes the whole thing too big. If those speakers don't work, I might go with 8's or 10's, one for each amp. If the only problem with the subs is a lack of higher-end response, could I add two mids?
I figure i could go from guitar to ABY box, from ABT box to the two amp chassis. Of course, this only works if I don't use the Deluxe112 chassis with the bad pre-amp.
I can't think of any reason that setup wouldn't work- as for it's tone, only way I know to determine that is to build it and see (hear?).
BUT- alternatives...?
Tap off MW amp's pre-amp circuit thru a switch and then to the Deluxe112's power amp?
If the dual-coil speakers don't sound good, is there a fairly simple circuit I can build to protect each amp from the other? (This assumes I want to have both speakers wired to both amps.)
Assuming the project is a success, build a foot switch that will:
Turn tremolo on MW amp on/off (easy, MW amp already has footswitch jack);
Turn reverb on SS amp on/off (could be easy if donor amp has reverb fw, but what if it does not?)
Houses ABY footswitch, and run TRS cable from ABY to amps?
Includes channel switch for SS amp (assuming SS amp has channel switching, 'natch). This plus the tube pre might result in a "Clean/Drive/More Drive" sort of setup, similar to a Hot Rod Deluxe.
Edumacate me, here! Thanks.
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