Suggestion to all of the gurus answering n00b questions

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I think the closest thing I've gotten to be able to give a short answer was when someone was asking why their .mp3 file was so much smaller in size (in reference to megabytes) than most professional songs they have.
They asked how to make the file bigger/higher quality. I responded with, "export it as a .wav."
Answers like that are simple. If they want to know HOW that makes it "higher quality," I can explain it to them. If not, I'll leave it be.
Of course, then there's times when people are asking about circuitry and such and a quick answer isn't as simple... But that's where the problem lies.
You got the new people that don't wanna learn, they want someone to do it for them.
And then there's the new people that are going to go somewhere because they took the time to read a paragraph or two explanation you gave 'em.
 
triquee said:
Heh...Honestly, whether they show it or not, I think pretty much everybody I've ever known or come into contact with either virtually or otherwise gets a little pissed (or frustrated) when they get an answer they don't like. I think that's more a human nature thing than a strictly obnoxious noob thing...The obnoxious ones just don't hide it well.
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Of course...we all want the answers to meet our expectations, or better....but with maturity comes a greater acceptance of reality.
Some noobs just don't like reality....they want to live in fantasy, so that's why they get pissed about some answers they get. :)
 
MrWrenchey said:
And then there's the new people that are going to go somewhere because they took the time to read a paragraph or two explanation you gave 'em.
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True story! Those kind of new people are on their way to make it big.
 
miroslav said:
Of course...we all want the answers to meet our expectations, or better....but with maturity comes a greater acceptance of reality.
Some noobs just don't like reality....they want to live in fantasy, so that's why they get pissed about some answers they get. :)
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Or perhaps it is your imposed (on them) version of reality that they object to...
 
This is getting deep. I better put my philosophical hat on. :eatpopcorn:
 
moresound said:
This is getting deep. I better put my philosophical hat on. :eatpopcorn:
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So many philosophical questions...

I'm still trying to figure out:

"Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable? Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music?"
 
triquee said:
Heh...Honestly, whether they show it or not, I think pretty much everybody I've ever known or come into contact with either virtually or otherwise gets a little pissed (or frustrated) when they get an answer they don't like. I think that's more a human nature thing than a strictly obnoxious noob thing...The obnoxious ones just don't hide it well.
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It's really great when someone asks a question, gets an answer that they don't like and start arguing with you...and the other seven people who are telling them the same thing.
 
triquee said:
Or perhaps it is your imposed (on them) version of reality that they object to...
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Kind of like your imposed reality that everyone giving long answers is simply doing so to make the op seem stupid and themselves seem smart? hmmm.
 
Every case on it's merits !
Everyone in this thread has been correct. That's how life often works.
 
Farview said:
Kind of like your imposed reality that everyone giving long answers is simply doing so to make the op seem stupid and themselves seem smart? hmmm.
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My intention is not at all to make anyone seem stupid. Neither am I imposing any reality on anyone. I am neither asking nor forcing you to succumb to what I believe is fair or just or proper by withholding information that you have requested or by giving you so much information as to render its utility moot. I am only sharing a different perspective on the topic of the thread. Whether or not you agree matters very little to me. But just because you disagree doesn't mean I am not allowed to share it.
 
triquee said:
Perhaps that assumption is a good portion of the disconnect that the original poster is describing.
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lol ..... you don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about because you don't know the OP.
You've been here a grand 6 months ...... 10 years from now you will NOT be posting the same way you do now.
You're the one making assumptions but it's fun to watch so go ahead with yo' bad self and explain to all us guys how it's done!
:D
 
That pedantism is alive and flourishing on the internet should come as no surprise. I avoid a few different forums for just that reason. Like the saying goes, "ask an engineer what time it is, and he'll tell you how to build a watch".
 
triquee said:
My intention is not at all to make anyone seem stupid. Neither am I imposing any reality on anyone. I am neither asking nor forcing you to succumb to what I believe is fair or just or proper by withholding information that you have requested or by giving you so much information as to render its utility moot. I am only sharing a different perspective on the topic of the thread. Whether or not you agree matters very little to me. But just because you disagree doesn't mean I am not allowed to share it.
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You seem to have missed my point.
 
Farview said:
You seem to have missed my point.
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Don't take it personally, Jay....he's missing almost everyone's points, and is just going on and on with his torch raised high.
He hasn't spent half as much time actually helping newbs in his short time here as he has posting in this thread! :D

Lt. Bob is right....after he's here for a few years (instead of a few months), he'll understand better what we are talking about.
 
Really, this all comes down to manners & child rearing, not philosophy.
If one asks a question and gets a reply there should be a thank you.
If the reply isn't helpful in terms of the question asked then the information can be ignored if it has no genreal value and the responder could be ignored or informed that the point was missed.
If the OP dislikes the answer given because it fails to reinforce a predetermined idea then the OP should apologise for having asked for information rather than for affirmation. (in reality there shouldn't have been a question - much better to post a discussion thread).
If the answer is obviously wrong then it's most likely others will point this out & redirect the OP & the responder will thereby have been given notice.
If the answer is long winded and tiresome to read then the OP can choose not to read, choose to put the responder on the ignore list or choose to learn something with a little effort.
This is teetering into the "How do we engage Generation X/Y/Z?" abyss.
Gen X/Y/Z is engaged if they ask questions.
Gen X/Y/Z is engaged if they use the internet.
Gen X/Y/Z is engaged with twitter due to the need to feel connected, loved and wanted.
Come on.
It's not about Gen X/Y/Z/Baby Boomers or Summer of Love Children.
The forum has a responsibility to sustain itself & this is best done by keeping current members and by recruiting new ones but...
In the terms so frequently used on Self Help programs of late: "enabling" does not support the future. Pandering does not improve knowledge. Saying "well done" instead of "thank you" when someone, who has moved beyond 6 years of age, blows their nose or takes out the garbage bin does not encourage greater effort.
If someone is unable to accept an answer they've requested because it's not couched in the terms, structure, format, handy app they wish, it is THEIR problem and not the problem of the responder.
Neville Chamberlain learnt these lessons very publicly - & we should all have learnt a little from his humiliation & the subsequent events.
 
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