Thanks for the help. I am using a proper 75ohm spdif cable. I tried both raw and pcm output on the apex (the only 2 options) but neither made a difference). I guess I got a bum unit. It's really noisy when it spins the disc as well. It's pretty crazy that SACD can't go over spdif. Maybe the next generation of players will handle it and by then I can afford a proper playback system for it