Some low end? Hmmmm?

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You know the Yamaha Subkick? It looks like a woofer inside a 12" drum with an XLR mic jack that you put in front of you bass drum to get that super low end. I was hanging out at a friend's studio (I won't drop a name, let's just say he's a very well known, well respected drummer.) and noticed he had an 8" woofer in front of his kick drum mounted from a cymbal stand. I asked him if it worked and he said "yeah!" So he showed me how he hooked it up and I decided to try it. I had an old woofer and soldered a cabe and XLR jack to it and sure enough, you add it to the mix and phoom! Low end galore! Use your regular bass drum mic for the attack and mids and let this fill in the rest!

The trick is to reverse the polatiry to the XLR connector. The speakers + should be the XLR's - . (Screw the sheild of the cable to the frame.) Otherwise you get phase cancellation. Very hot output too, so don't add too much!

Have fun!!
 
Hey I never thought of that :) sounds like a very good idea.

I know about the reverse-wiring a speaker equals a microphone thing but I never really thought there were any usefull practices for it.
 
You don't need the drum.

Please don't expect newbies to know about two out of thousands of previous threads. That comes off as condescending. Yes, you've been here for a really long time. We haven't. Sorry for waisting server storage with our piddly little ASCII code. If you need to archive all the redundant postings I'd be happy to spring for a floppy disk. I'm not going to research every suggestion before I post it. I'm excited and wanted to share something I had just learned!

As for the hip hop stupid genre remark, I would never mean to implicate that Hip Hop is stupid. It's just that 95% of it is drum machines, loops and samples. There are rare exceptions of course
 
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PhilGood said:
You don't need the drum.

Don't expect newbies to know about two out of thousands of previous threads. That comes off as condescending.
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You seem a little testy. No condescension intended. You might want to hang around here a little to test the social milieu before you start telling us how to be polite. :)

But folks might consider doing a simple search of the forum before they post a question. It's not rocket science. That way, if something's been covered ad nauseum (not that this has), they can learn from the knowledge base and move on.
People that post the same questions time after time ("What is the best mic...?") are just hanging their laziness or ignorance out for all to see, and show a disrespect for the time and knowledge of those who have posted answers to these questions before.
 
crazydoc said:
You seem a little testy. No condescension intended. You might want to hang around here a little to test the social milieu before you start telling us how to be polite. :)

But folks might consider doing a simple search of the forum before they post a question. It's not rocket science. That way, if something's been covered ad nauseum (not that this has), they can learn from the knowledge base and move on.
People that post the same questions time after time ("What is the best mic...?") are just hanging their laziness or ignorance out for all to see, and show a disrespect for the time and knowledge of those who have posted answers to these questions before.
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I apologize if I seem testy. I don't mean to attack anyone or presume to tell you how to behave. I have hung out here a while before joining, doing alot of research. (through Google searches) I've never seen a thread here about this. Like I said, there are thousands of threads. (This one, a long time have I watched!)

I've also seen the reactions of some of the gurus to the ad nausium questions. Some have been nasty and some are downright vicious. You can't expect new people who come to a "bulletin board" to know how the experienced people operate. If it annoyes a guru that someone new has what they think is a quick question and gets "We've already covered that! Where were you?! Oh, I'm tired of all the same questions! Don't these people know how this works?" well, stop being a guru here.

I have to go through the same thing on computer boards. There are prima donnas there as well. But this IS a "bulletin board". It is meant to be free for anyone to use simply by "walking up" and asking a question. Don't trample someone because they entered your realm without proper protocol. (I'm not saying that you did.)
 
PhilGood said:
... I've never seen a thread here about this. Like I said, there are thousands of threads....
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And that's why there is a search function, on this and most other BBS.

I grew up and got my education BC (before computers), when information retrieval was a time and labor intensive process. We used to actually have to physically transport ourselves to edifices that were repositories of information, if you can believe that! Then we had to thumb through flattened wood pulp sheets to find the location of the information in other groups of pulp sheets that were stacked high on shelves in many different rooms. If the repository didn't have the ones you were looking for, they could order them from another repository and you might get them in a week or two if you were lucky.

And then you had to hand copy the information to your own blank pulp sheets with a graphite writing stick. As the years went by, if your repository was really modern, you could pay to have the information copied to blank sheets in a special machine.

I never visit any BBS, much less post, without a search of the information contained therein first. Many times I can find what I'm looking for without wasting any more of my or anyone else's time.

Nowadays, you can get 95% of the public domain information in the world within seconds if you can spell "google". Maybe that's why there is this instant gratification mentality - "I want the answer right now without doing any work for it." So don't be surprised at some of the less than welcoming responses to these same old questions. People need to learn to expend a little of their own effort, rather than be spoon fed like babies.

BTW, I'm not a guru and this isn't my realm. :)
 
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People need to learn to expend a little of their own effort, rather than be spoon fed like babies.
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Boy, I'll agree with that! OK, I promise to search before posting!
 
crazydoc said:
Nowadays, you can get 95% of the public domain information in the world within seconds if you can spell "google".
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Were that only true. I doubt if 10% of information is available on internet. Those pesky pulp repositories still have their uses . . .
 
Hey! I've been using an NS-10 woofer on kick drum for years!

OOOPS, has this already been posted somewhere before?
 
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Were that only true. I doubt if 10% of information is available on internet. Those pesky pulp repositories still have their uses . . .
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Yes, I did exaggerate. :) Yet, much of the information on those hallowed shelves is still copyright protected, and not in the public domain, which is why I made that stipulation.

Of course, much of the information on the internet is utter bullshit - certainly a larger percentage than what is on the shelves. It takes a lot more time, effort and expense to publish a hard copy than to put up something on a website, so on average it's probably of a higher quality, though there are a fair number of outliers.

Sorry about your thread, PhilGood - I'll leave now. :o
 
crazydoc said:
Sorry about your thread, PhilGood - I'll leave now. :o
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Actually I found it quite entertaining!

I closing, yup, try this 8" woofer idea that's been here for a while!! Brought to you by your local public library...

Phil
 
Ah, The internet...

I remember a time when the internet was out last year, and my roomie and I were just talking. Every now and then we'd mention something and be like oh, lemme see a picture of it really quick.... oh yeah... no internet.

Or let me look up this information or other... oh yeah, no internet.

It's really amazing how much information can be in front of my eyes in under 10 seconds.

I haven't even been alive for quite two decades (under a month to go though.... man, that's so old. Reckon the next milestone will come just as quick, eh you older people?) and I've seen things like this already go through leaps and bounds of unimaginable proportion, in my relatively short time experiencing this thing we call the world.


And yeah, I'm totally gonna try this trick out this summer (when I'll be getting down and dirty for some serious recording)

Been thinking bout it for a while.

And welcome to the board, Phil, good to have you.
 
Yes

i love my speaker mic to death.
i use it for bass drum as well and it doubles as a good bass guitar mic. it is probably my most used mic because whenever i do recording i have a mic stand with the mic in it and the little speaker stuck to the tube using the magnet on the back so ill usually have one overhead/tom mic stand right in the middle so i can also use it to mic the bass drum, and sometimes ill add in a dynamic for punch. but ive noticed it has a very smooth response and adds spectrum to the sound for next to nothing. i actually used a regular 1/4 guitar cable for mine, i should try it out with the xlr though... i wonder what different speaker sizes do to the tone. and what if i tried a tweeter! oh the possiblitys! :rolleyes:
 
The good thing about posting on this subject is... I never would have searched for this because I didn't know about it:) Now I do.

I might have to try this, Although I get more low than I can handle just by barely dipping my 52 in the hole on the front head. Maybe the texture is different?
 
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