Did anyone submit anything to Sjoko in response to his offer to provide mastering for homewreckers back in July 2001? I sent him material in August and after him cashing my check for $225 and repeated assurances from him that he would do the mastering, I never received anything back or a refund. I guess he's too "professional" or "busy" but why does he not return phone calls or email and why did he post the offer in the first place? Anyone have any thoughts? By the way, I see from his posts he's not too busy to chat on this board.
Sjoko2's mastering offer scam
- Thread starter bigfoot
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Blue Bear Sound
New member
It's likely an oversight - he doesn't seem like the type to blow people off....
Bruce
Bruce
MISTERQCUE
Not Just Anutha Brutha
The slow response is that sjoko just recently had major surgery
and didn't have the strenght for any kind of physical work.
Give him a lil mo' time as he is still recuperating!
and didn't have the strenght for any kind of physical work.
Give him a lil mo' time as he is still recuperating!
Wallycleaver
New member
Seems like you are in a rush, did you let him know? $225 for reputable mastering services isn't bad AT ALL!! There is one decent place here in Colorado thats booked pretty far in advance, think about all the home recers that sent hims stuff.
brokenwindow
New member
If it makes a difference, I sent a demo in to him and got it back. It was a week or 2 later than planned...but I did get it.
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
Sjoko2 mastering offer IS A SCAM. No reputable business accepts money, then dismisses any form of acknowledgement of such transaction. Not answering emails, or even a simple reply as to when he'll get to it, "hey, I got your money", or "I'm really busy...give me another couple weeks..etc" is the beginnings to a ripoff. You guys that think you could send money, and are "rushing it" (by wanting a response/acknowledgement within two months), or think he is recovery from surgery for two months, or "simply an oversight" ought to smell the roses. I sent a CD, only to waste my time with emails (with no response) for well over two months also. The only way I got his attention was thru this message board...and then his story would change. He offered to listen first, then they gave me some line that he already had several hours into it by transferring it to another format. blah, blah, blah... Shit...I sent the man an audio CDr......no CD player to listen in??? really??!! Finally, I got a final email...he wasn't interested in mastering my project. Not that I need HIS personal reason as to why....but I'm glad I'm not trying to do business, long distance, with the dude. I'd think people that take money, and then re-nig on services ought to watch their backside. I'd drive the distance if only to make a point, and "bring to justice" the people that try to rip you off. Sjoko is probably living in some friggin cave somewhere in hiding like someone else so popular on the news nowadays.
sjoko2
New member
well well, you live and learn don't you.
While I really don't feel I ought to provide any explanations here, I really feel these posts are a bit sick to say the least, so I better.
I made the offer to do some mastering at cost here, and in another private pro forum. The main reason, to fine-tune the facility. Secondary reason, for some homewreckers it was a chance to get something mastered professionally at a fraction of the normal cost.
Naturally, tuning a facility means stop - start, its not a normal commercial turn-around operation.
Over a 4 week period I did quite a number of projects, as you can imagine. After that time I had to stop, with three projects unfinished, Jacob's, David's and Larry's. Jacob's CD was finished last Saturday, David and Larry's will be finished this week. These are , by the way, the only things I am doing, full stop.
The reason I stopped working are quite simple, I had surgery, which involved the removal of bone from my upper jaw, and replacing it with bone from my hip. Not very pleasant, sort of gives you slightly sore head, and also effected my sinusses and my hearing. Result; I have not worked on music for many weeks, I started again last week working on mastering for just a couple of hours.
David, I did send you an email, in your response you made me aware of your post here. You know exactly what's what.
mixmkr - if I would have been you I definately would not have made those comments. If I make an offer to do something cheap for homewreckers, I'm afraid I reserve the right to decide what I will and what I will not do. What I would not do was load your music up, analyse it, then report what I thought I could do to improve it, before you giving me the go ahaid to do the mastering.
Basically, that was doing the mastering without actually doing it.
Sorry - you overstepped the mark by quite a margin.
Had you been someone I knew quite well from this forum, I still might have done it, but in your case, I decided you were the person to stay well clear off, for good reason it seems. Your songs are all about God, Jezus, etc. Great. Try and apply a bit of that message, you need it, people like you make me positivily sick.
I did work on some really cool stuff from here though, and enjoyed it. Rest assure, never again.
In the end, David, if you get your disk back and its not well mastered, THEN you have a reason to complain.
While I really don't feel I ought to provide any explanations here, I really feel these posts are a bit sick to say the least, so I better.
I made the offer to do some mastering at cost here, and in another private pro forum. The main reason, to fine-tune the facility. Secondary reason, for some homewreckers it was a chance to get something mastered professionally at a fraction of the normal cost.
Naturally, tuning a facility means stop - start, its not a normal commercial turn-around operation.
Over a 4 week period I did quite a number of projects, as you can imagine. After that time I had to stop, with three projects unfinished, Jacob's, David's and Larry's. Jacob's CD was finished last Saturday, David and Larry's will be finished this week. These are , by the way, the only things I am doing, full stop.
The reason I stopped working are quite simple, I had surgery, which involved the removal of bone from my upper jaw, and replacing it with bone from my hip. Not very pleasant, sort of gives you slightly sore head, and also effected my sinusses and my hearing. Result; I have not worked on music for many weeks, I started again last week working on mastering for just a couple of hours.
David, I did send you an email, in your response you made me aware of your post here. You know exactly what's what.
mixmkr - if I would have been you I definately would not have made those comments. If I make an offer to do something cheap for homewreckers, I'm afraid I reserve the right to decide what I will and what I will not do. What I would not do was load your music up, analyse it, then report what I thought I could do to improve it, before you giving me the go ahaid to do the mastering.
Basically, that was doing the mastering without actually doing it.
Sorry - you overstepped the mark by quite a margin.
Had you been someone I knew quite well from this forum, I still might have done it, but in your case, I decided you were the person to stay well clear off, for good reason it seems. Your songs are all about God, Jezus, etc. Great. Try and apply a bit of that message, you need it, people like you make me positivily sick.
I did work on some really cool stuff from here though, and enjoyed it. Rest assure, never again.
In the end, David, if you get your disk back and its not well mastered, THEN you have a reason to complain.
Track Rat
Just Your Average Sized Member
Sjoko, sorry to hear about the sugery, hope your feeling better.
As far as the whinners, let me see if I got this straight. You're getting a professional level service that normally costs well over $1000 for $250 and not only do you piss and moan about it but you trash the person on a BBS for his efforts. As with all jesus freaks, no good deed goes unpunished. That's the main reason I won't take work from "Praise" bands (lord save us).
I suppose it's like selling a car to some you know, it's a bad idea.
As far as the whinners, let me see if I got this straight. You're getting a professional level service that normally costs well over $1000 for $250 and not only do you piss and moan about it but you trash the person on a BBS for his efforts. As with all jesus freaks, no good deed goes unpunished. That's the main reason I won't take work from "Praise" bands (lord save us).
I suppose it's like selling a car to some you know, it's a bad idea.
Blue Bear Sound
New member
Just a tip for the future....
Human nature is remarkably consistent - we all prefer to establish our identity and work very hard to maintain that. Even on the web, we do the same thing, establish an identity and maintain it consistently so that people get a sense of who we are and what we're all about....
Someone who posts here regularly and has very high visibility on the forum is far less likely to be someone who screws people around. Doing so would diminish their established identity and any respect they've earned via the content of their posts.
From Sjoko's posts, it is self-evident that he is a pro and experienced, and as well, is of a nature to help people, as his frequent participation here demonstrates. It is precisely this reason that I was fairly confident in saying Sjoko had cause for what BigFoot was describing as an unlikley scenario for someone who's earned the board's respect such as Sjoko has.
If Sjoko were trying to screw people over, he wouldn't be wasting time sharing his knowledge and providing the excellent resource to this board as he has..........
Just some points to consider if this situation ever arises again, with anyone doing business with any of the resident pros here.....
Sjoko - I hope your recovery is imminent and that you feel better soon.
Bruce
Human nature is remarkably consistent - we all prefer to establish our identity and work very hard to maintain that. Even on the web, we do the same thing, establish an identity and maintain it consistently so that people get a sense of who we are and what we're all about....
Someone who posts here regularly and has very high visibility on the forum is far less likely to be someone who screws people around. Doing so would diminish their established identity and any respect they've earned via the content of their posts.
From Sjoko's posts, it is self-evident that he is a pro and experienced, and as well, is of a nature to help people, as his frequent participation here demonstrates. It is precisely this reason that I was fairly confident in saying Sjoko had cause for what BigFoot was describing as an unlikley scenario for someone who's earned the board's respect such as Sjoko has.
If Sjoko were trying to screw people over, he wouldn't be wasting time sharing his knowledge and providing the excellent resource to this board as he has..........
Just some points to consider if this situation ever arises again, with anyone doing business with any of the resident pros here.....
Sjoko - I hope your recovery is imminent and that you feel better soon.
Bruce
MISTERQCUE
Not Just Anutha Brutha
mixmkr said:
Considering sjoko's reply to your accusations,do you feel a little bit, say "- - - - - -" !!?? You figger it out!
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
MISTERQCUE said:
do I feel "- - - - - -"? .....no....not at all. Just that I passed up on a bad apple who never responded to personal emails. I wasn't stupid enough to send the guy money first, and be in a non controlling situation. He offered to listen to the project first and offer recommendations. I could go back to the forum post where I asked such and he replied to something "listenings free...." But you all know where that post is anyway. And like his response here, he said he "had to load the music up....etc" and paralleled it to actually starting to master. Well, if he has to "load music up" to listen to it first, that is his right, but I feel at his expense, since he said "hey, listenings free." BTW, no CD player Sjoko. Also, if you feel you don't want to master something, OF COURSE that is your choice...no doubt about it. I am just commenting on your actions in my situation, which seem to be like Bigfoots....no responses. I still say, if Bigfoot sent money, has not gotten any replies for over two months, the guy is a scam, whether he masters great or not. You don't treat customers like that. That attitude Sjoko, in your words, "makes me positively sick."
MISTERQCUE
Not Just Anutha Brutha
sjoko2 said:
"My hip bone connected to my jaw bone! My jaw bone connected to my knee bone, my knee bone connected to my neck bone,
and I ain't goin ta' sckool n-e morrrrrrre !!!!!"
Sorry man, I'm bored at work again!
Wallycleaver
New member
If a client need anything mastered, I'm recomending sending it to Sjoko2 over any other place. A local place here does great work but are booked quite far in advance. mixmkr, you seem to be fighting a loosing battle. You got a great deal and you are bitching about it. Beggers can't be choosers. If you want it so bad get a refund and send it to another mastering house. You can be a little patient, get great results OR with the same money take it to some one with a a cheesy plug in mastering and some home stereo speakers? (Sorry to all who do that I'm not meaning to offend anyone)
Wallycleaver
New member
My bad.......you still shouldn't bitch, he's trying to hook you up.