Signal Patching in Yamaha MG10/2 - Monitor Mix?

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In the process of setting up a new DAW, trying to figure out how to get a monitor mix out of my Yamaha mixer. I'm using powered Alesis M1s, which means twin mono cable ins to the speakers. Problem is, the Yamaha pre-fader bus goes to a single-port stereo cable out. Is there some sort of splitter I can use in this situation or, even better, can someone familiar with the mixer clue me to how to route the Aux 1 bus to the C-R or ST outs on the fly (without unplugging stuff)?

Thanks!
 
i use the mg16/4 so i'm not sure if they're configured exactly the same way. are you trying to listen to what's being sent out aux 1 without returning the signal? - ie for a headphone mix. if so then i don't think there is any way to listen to aux 1 without as you suggest splitting the signal and returning it to another channel. a pickle alright.

i haven't had a problem with this limitation yet but i can see it being annoying alright. i was considering something like the mackie big knob to give me greater control over my monitor setup though cos i want to use 3 sets of speakers. something like this might provide a solution by routing the aux outputs of the console through one of its source inputs. might be worth checking out.
 
Anything that can be assigned to Aux 1 can also be assigned to the main outs. Why do you need to monitor exactly what is going out on the Aux?
 
I must be missing something, Tex, 'cause it's not obvious to me how the Aux 1 signal can be assigned to the main outs - that is, without putting it back into the main mix, which completely defeats the purpose. It's a pretty small mixer, so I don't know if it just lacks the standard amenities or what. I do electronic stuff on a direct in, so I don't have to monitor my playback on headphones, and I'd prefer not to, but i guess the mixer may just not be made with that situation in mind. Maybe I just need to look harder, but i think I've pretty much twiddled every knob.
 
Why not just use a stereo -> 2x mono adapter? Or am I missing something...
 
Yeah, that's the answer I was looking for - I didn't know there was such a thing. Though it would be nice to be able to just route the Aux send signal to the main outs so I wouldn't have to move cables around for when I wanted a cleaner output (for mastering or whatnot).
 
Yeah you should be able to pick one up for under 10 bucks. Alternately, what interface are you using? Does it have outputs that you could use to set up a monitor mix through its internal routing?
 
I've got the E-Mu 1212, which only has twin mono outs. I'm actually pretty annoyed that I didn't realize what a stumbling block that could be when I was buying the thing. It is expandable, so i'll probably end up putting down cash for a couple of ADAT units. Thanks for all the help.
 
Well, it may not be such a bad thing, since its generally better (from what I've gathered, at least) to monitor in mono when tracking to pick out phase and frequency discrepencies and so on.
 
Wow, I've got my headphones in this Aux out, and it's a) apparently mono, since I'm only getting sound in my right ear and b) buzzing like a nest of frickin' hornets. I'm not familiar with the terminology here, but the manual says they're "impedance balanced phone-type" jacks. It doesn't say they're mono.

May have to return this beast. Missa Kurtz, he (may be) daid.
 
the input jack of your headphones is stereo and the aux output is mono which explains why you only hear in the one headphone. the buzz is probably cos of extremely mismatched impedences. the aux output is not meant for feeding heahpones directly - should feed an effect unit or headphone amp. i wouldn't go changing the desk untill you figure out exactly what you want to use it for cos most desks in its price range won't offer any features that the mg10/2 doesn't have.
 
Tell me, what would this Aux output normally be used for? 'Cause it seems like using it as a monitor or alternate mix isn't completely crazy - seems odd that it would be engineered into impossibility.
 
Aux sends are usually used for patching in effects. You can use one for a monitor mix (or another alternate mix)...you just can't monitor directly off an aux out with a pair of headphones. You have to use a headphone amp. Try this...pick up a Behringer 4600 headphone amp up on eBay. Run your main two-track cue mix (from your DAW interface's output), or your main stereo out from the board, into the headphone amp's main stereo input. Connect the main stereo output to your monitor amp. Then, send Aux 1 out to the direct in on channel one of your headphone amp. Aux 2 to channel two, etc. What this will allow you to do is monitor your main mix over a pair of headphones, and if one person needs anything boosted, you can use that channel's aux send to boost it more in that person's mix without disturbing the main stereo monitor mix.
 
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