Shure Sm7b Problems

SpecialTricks · Oct 12, 2022

Hello, @everyone

''I have a Shure SM7B Vocal Dynamic Microphone and M-Track-Duo sound card and Presonus Hd9 headphones.
My problem is that even though I spent so much money on the microphone, when recording the sound, it both sounds scratchy and records very mini mini recording. If it were not for Adobe Audution, I cannot clean the sound without editing it in any other way.

Or I can't amplify it. What's the reason for that? Plus the acoustic panel and pop filter attached to the mic...
My goal is to make podcasts and get a good recording after a little processing without too much editing.
Also, I am participating in some webinars and my voice is very low. This is very annoying...

I wonder why.
Exactly how can I get efficiency from this microphone, I would appreciate it if you help me, friends.

I saw in foreign videos that you can unscrew the back of the ''Shure Smb7'' microphone and remove some tics inside and make some adjustments.

Apart from that, I installed "EqualizerAPO" and Peace Setup and corrected some values. ''S'' "P I've lowered the LERIs, or rather, I've lowered their value.

I made some adjustments to the bass settings to get a full sound, but no, there is no change as the guys explain in the videos, I don't know why.

Then I installed SteelSeriesgg, which is like Voice Meter but better than Voice Meter. It is very good for making my voice full, but as I said, I am exposed to noise and ambient sounds due to the lack of insulation in my room.

I followed the instructions in this video but it didn't make much difference.

I adjusted the frequencies. It's better than before, but still not what I wanted.
I don't want to overclock it.
I don't want 12k to go to waste.

Also in foreign videos they attach a device for the microphone, something like a priamp or amplifier, I think.

He sounds like glass.

It's legendary but I thought why can't I do that and I went and bought a Klark Teknik Mic Booster CM-1 model preamp. But again I couldn't get rid of the noise and ambient sounds.

When I turn up the gain from the sound card, there is a lot of crackling in my headphones and when I record, it turns into a noisy recording.

I used Obs and SteelSeriesgg's noise filter feature, but I still couldn't get good quality. When I record with Obs, it's choppy.

I don't know what to do. Should I isolate the environment and record or should I buy a new sound card that I can increase the gain?

Or should he isolate the room?

Should I choose a better sound card? Can I get a suggestion around 6-7k?
Like a Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 Gen 3 sound card?

It has its own gain feature.
Doesn't Cloudfilter and what I have serve the same purpose?
Both are called cloudfilter.

Their purpose is not different and the other product is called cloudfilter only....
WHAT I CALL A CRACKLE IS ACTUALLY AN AMBIENT SOUND.

It sounds like when you are recording a cassette tape, you can actually call it noise. It happens when I turn the signal/clip button too high. But when I turn it down, this time it gets low sound. I do a lot of cleaning while editing in Audition, but the sound is a bit muffled. So the sound drops.

I changed the cable, I don't think it's that. There's nothing wrong with our ground line. As for the Vocal Booth thing, I thought about it, but they're really expensive, especially in this economy, I can't afford them.
It is already beyond my budget. As I said, there is lava acoustic in terms of acoustic arrangement, but they don't serve everywhere and their products are very expensive....When you say noise gate, are you talking about an add-on or a device?

Can you recommend me a plugin, plugin, plugin, software, anything to enhance the sound, reduce noises, smooth out sounds like "p" "s" "s" "sh"?

I can get a few or a lot of suggestions?
In terms of software or plugins, maybe I can handle a lot of things. I've seen a few on YouTube.

I'm not talking about the free ones.
I would be grateful if you could recommend the paid ones.

They told me that the power of my sound card is not enough for my microphone. Now I don't know whether to change my microphone, change my sound card, change the preamp or what to do. If you help me, I want to get out of this dilemma.

These are the sound cards recommended to me;

+Ssl Solid State Logic - Ssl 2 + USB Sound Card
+Apollo Twin X DUO Sound Card Heritage Edition
+Audient iD14 MKII
+tc electronic Impact Twin

Should I upgrade the sound card?
They said there might be a problem with the cable and told me to buy klotz brand cable for 500 tl.
Some suggested me to use "fabfilter total bundle". Some said '' Apogee MIC PLUS 24-bit 96 kHz USB Microphone" brand microphone.
Some said '' Boom 3D Desktop" and some suggested "Izotope RX10".

As a result, my mind is confused.
How can I identify which problem I have now?
The things I have written may be related to each other.
There are too many articles, so I hope it won't confuse you.

1.If possible, I need a way to minimize the noise in real time with a software or plugin before going to adobe or editing, before cleaning it with adobe or any other software. If not possible, what ways can we apply?

To clean up "S" "P" sounds or exploding words and sounds without too much noise.

To get a full sound, you need to give the sound a saw-like pleasantness (epic or masculine), that is, to make the sound deeper.

Regulate the bass if some is too high, raise or lower the treble if it is too high or too low

Techniques for adjusting the bass of the sound, just like voice meter and steelseriesgg do

Noise removal, ambient noise removal, crackling, popping, clicking noise removal

The preamp I'm using has a gain of 25db, of course if I turn the signal/clip switch on my sound card all the way up the wuuuuuuu sound gets louder. How do we adjust this, how do we balance it?

8.Giving healthy gain to the voice, bringing all voices to the same level but giving power
(without distorting the sound)

9.When I clean too much, the quality of the sound drops and it becomes muffled and garbage.
How close should I get to the microphone and what criteria should I use when recording?

10.If there are plugins and presets to correct the sound, to make equalizer settings, to make a professional touch, share the links and download addresses with me, and if you use them in the video, I will ask you to explain their use in terms of beautifying the sound.

11.Amplify, deesser, dymanic proceesing, hard limiter, normalize, speec volume leveler, delete silence, fft filter, parametric equalizer, chorus, flanger, phaser, noise gate, noise reduction, hiss reduction, denoise, click remover, vocal enhancer, dereverb (delete echoes) reverb logic and in which situations it can be used.

12.To what extent can it be used in podcasts? Thickening if the sound is thin, lightening if it is thick ... Or turning it into a full sound like optimus prime are important issues for me. I hope they are not insurmountable.

13.If there are alternatives to the plugins that can be used for the filters, effects, or corrections I have mentioned, I would be glad if you can tell them and show them. Or you can explain which techniques or plugins are healthier. I work with Adobe Auduition, but if you say I will use another software, if there is a better software, we can install it and go over it.

14.After all, it will be a training according to my purpose. So I don't need to master all the features of the software. My goal is to be a good podcaster. For this, I have collected a 65 thousand TL computer and we are in the shipping phase. Obviously, I don't want to spend again because I bought the sound card and microphone 3-4 months ago without much research. Nevertheless, if this sound card and microphone do not solve our problem, I would like to know if something healthy does not come out with what you have described because of the microphone and sound card.

I'm ready to do whatever it takes.
I can get counseling if necessary. If it is in your field, of course...I would be happy if you get back.

dogooder · Oct 12, 2022

You might want to get a different microphone?

SpecialTricks · Oct 12, 2022

dogooder said:
You might want to get a different microphone?

That's all you can say?

R D Smith · Oct 12, 2022

I would try a different microphone, either borrow or buy one if you have to. You need to determine if the problem is in the microphone or signal chain.

dogooder · Oct 12, 2022

SpecialTricks said:
That's all you can say?

seems pretty obvious? You seem to have tried just about everything else. What would you like me to say?

TalismanRich · Oct 12, 2022

Something that you mentioned: WHAT I CALL A CRACKLE IS ACTUALLY AN AMBIENT SOUND.

If what you say is true, then you can buy the best mic or preamp in the world and it won't fix that problem. You basically have two avenues to take. 1) remove or minimize the ambient sound 2) Use software to remove the sound .

Cleaning up the sound at the source can be done with better isolation, and by getting close enough to the mic to give a stronger "signal" relative to the ambient "noise". Getting closer to an SM7B will also add some low end weight to the voice due to proximity effect. That's useful to give the voice that powerful sound. Moving the microphone to the side can help reduce plosives and sibilance. However, it is better to adjust speaking (or singing) technique to minimize sibilance. It's a bit like a singer learning to sing from the chest rather than from the nose.

There are quite a few programs, such as the ones you mentioned, that will remove noise. They work best with constant noise, like hiss or hum. Intermittent noise is harder to deal with. In the end, they are all band-aids that try to fix what was done wrong rather than providing a clean environment to start with.

Maybe you can post a portion of voice with both complete silence (so we can try to determine the source of the noise) and some typical speaking to we can hear the vocal issues. Something with 10-15secs of silence and 30 secs of speaking would be perfect.

rob aylestone · Oct 12, 2022

OK - first thing. We need to hear it. The Shure SM7B is a fine mic, and yet it has a few weirdnesses. If you plug it into your interface, put your lips about an inch away, set the record level and press record - what does that sound like? Move them further away and you need some more gain, they're a very deaf mic, but close in, a preamp isn't needed. I use one frequently. There is NO NEED WHATSOEVER, to open them up. There are a few possibilities.
1. It's faulty.
2. It's a really bad fake
3. Something is adrift with your preamp.

There's no need to use any software to process it. You can if you wish but they are plug 'n' play.
1. is unlikely, although could be a duff cable of course - do you have an alternative mic to try?
2. There are many fakes about. I also have one and have to make sure I never mix them up - the difference on this one is very small. However some people are reporting really horrible ones now appearing?
3. The preamp is working?

Have you a spare mic to compare performance.

We really need a recording of the mic direct to the preamp please.

Steenamaroo · Oct 12, 2022

rob aylestone said:
OK - first thing. We need to hear it.

rob aylestone said:
We really need a recording of the mic direct to the preamp please.

Always. Everything's a guess without hearing the problem.

RRuskin · Oct 12, 2022

rob aylestone said:
OK - first thing. We need to hear it. The Shure SM7B is a fine mic, and yet it has a few weirdnesses. If you plug it into your interface, put your lips about an inch away, set the record level and press record - what does that sound like? Move them further away and you need some more gain, they're a very deaf mic, but close in, a preamp isn't needed. I use one frequently. There is NO NEED WHATSOEVER, to open them up. There are a few possibilities.
1. It's faulty.
2. It's a really bad fake
3. Something is adrift with your preamp.

There's no need to use any software to process it. You can if you wish but they are plug 'n' play.
1. is unlikely, although could be a duff cable of course - do you have an alternative mic to try?
2. There are many fakes about. I also have one and have to make sure I never mix them up - the difference on this one is very small. However some people are reporting really horrible ones now appearing?
3. The preamp is working?

Have you a spare mic to compare performance.

We really need a recording of the mic direct to the preamp please.

A preamp isn't needed? On what planet?

SpecialTricks · Oct 12, 2022

TalismanRich said:
Bahsettiğiniz bir şey: ÇATIŞMA DEDİĞİM ŞEY, GERÇEKTEN BİR ORTAM SESİDİR.

Eğer söyledikleriniz doğruysa, dünyanın en iyi mikrofonunu veya preamplifikatörünü satın alabilirsiniz ve bu sorunu çözmeyecektir. Temelde almanız gereken iki yol var. 1) ortam sesini kaldırın veya en aza indirin 2) Sesi kaldırmak için yazılım kullanın.

Sesi kaynağında temizlemek, daha iyi bir izolasyonla ve ortam "gürültüsüne" göre daha güçlü bir "sinyal" vermek için mikrofona yeterince yaklaşarak yapılabilir. Bir SM7B'ye yaklaşmak, yakınlık etkisinden dolayı sese bir miktar düşük ağırlık katacaktır. Sese o güçlü sesi vermekte fayda var. Mikrofonu yana doğru hareket ettirmek patlayıcıları ve ıslığı azaltmaya yardımcı olabilir. Bununla birlikte, sessizliği en aza indirmek için konuşma (veya şarkı söyleme) tekniğini ayarlamak daha iyidir. Şarkı söylemeyi burnundan değil göğsünden öğrenen bir şarkıcı gibi.

Bahsettiğiniz gibi gürültüyü ortadan kaldıracak birkaç program var. Tıslama veya uğultu gibi sürekli gürültü ile en iyi şekilde çalışırlar. Aralıklı gürültüyle baş etmek daha zordur. Neticede hepsi, başlangıçta temiz bir ortam sağlamak yerine, yapılan yanlışı düzeltmeye çalışan yara bantlarıdır.

Belki sesin bir kısmını hem tam sessizlikle (böylece gürültünün kaynağını belirlemeye çalışabiliriz) hem de vokal sorunlarını duyabileceğimiz bazı tipik konuşmalarla yayınlayabilirsiniz. 10-15 saniye sessizlik ve 30 saniye konuşma mükemmel olurdu.