Should you buy a pedal steel guitar

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Well. I've just listened to this for the 5th time. (6th actually). You have a great song here. REALLY great.
it's like Tom Waite, George Harrison, Waylon and Bob Dylan walk into a bar...
Let me ask you, is that your song? The lyrics are so profound for people of a certain age. It's very touching in a glad/sad way. You should definitely get a copyright on that.
How did you record it?
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I'll be in touch.
 
Old Music Guy said:
Well. I've just listened to this for the 5th time. (6th actually). You have a great song here. REALLY great.
it's like Tom Waite, George Harrison, Waylon and Bob Dylan walk into a bar...
Let me ask you, is that your song? The lyrics are so profound for people of a certain age. It's very touching in a glad/sad way. You should definitely get a copyright on that.
How did you record it?
Need deets!
I'll be in touch.
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I never copyright anything. I never really gave any thought to making money off my music. We recorded it through a Yamaha 02R mixing board onto an Alesis HD24 and mixed it back through the same mixer. Jimmy, the base player, usually did all the mixing. On this track it was just scratch drums, bass, rhythm, vocal. That was about 8 years ago. I retired and moved 800 miles away. I still had the tracks on the HD24 and had to work with the drums and bass I had, so I erased he original rhythm and vocal track, added the guitar, PSG, Piano and Synth Pads and a new vocal track and mixed that. Then I wanted to double the vocal track and pan them right left but instead of hitting copy I hit cut, oops. So, I had to do the vocal over again and remix. You can definitely hear the difference in Jimmy's mixing expertise as opposed to mine when you listen to any of his total mixes.
 
rob aylestone said:
I thought I'd start by explaining a bit about pedal steel guitars, and why they fry your brain.

Seriously - we often talk about chords, chord progressions and then get confused when some people talk about chord numbers, rather than letter names. If you want to play pedal steel, you really need to get your head around the names and the numbers. I've also tried to explain how the pedal steel is one instrument nobody can ever borrow, and why you probably cannot play somebody else's!

This video just deals with the mechanics of what the various pedals and levers do.
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Yes and I have one for sale! A showbud Maverick.
 
Is that your video?
I think that it is a little bit off the mark when it comes to beginners. I say this because, in this video, there is a single neck, that is tuned to C9.
In my experience (with my 2 steels) is that the farthest neck is tuned to E9. The closest neck is tuned to C6.
Tuning a single neck to C6??? No wonder this gentleman hit a wall.

---- foot pedals ---- ---- knee levers ----
"A" "B" "C" "D" "E" "F"
1 F#
2 D# ---------------------------- D
3 G# ---------- A
4 E ---------------- F# -------------- D# -- F
5 B ---- C# -------- C#
6 G# ---------- A
7 F#
8 E ---------------------------------- D# -- F
9 D
10 B ---- C#

You can see that the pedal functions and knees are totally inconsistent with a C6 tuning.
No wonder he can't play another persons' steel. I couldn't/wouldn't play his.
Sorry if that's you, but not sorry.
 
Is that your video? never mind, I am too stupid for my shirt.
 
Not on you. You didn't post the video.
But who ever did, if they are a steel player, they should know that you can't tune a steel, with an Emmons set up, in C9.
That's just rude. I can't imagine even getting an E9 set of strings to go up to C, or down to C.
Sorry. I wish I still had a steel. As a piano player for most of my life, I am very familiar with chords, inversions, and theory. I think that without at least a basic knowledge of theory, one would have a very difficult time with it.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
 
Old Music Guy said:
Not on you. You didn't post the video.
But who ever did, if they are a steel player, they should know that you can't tune a steel, with an Emmons set up, in C9.
That's just rude. I can't imagine even getting an E9 set of strings to go up to C, or down to C.
Sorry. I wish I still had a steel. As a piano player for most of my life, I am very familiar with chords, inversions, and theory. I think that without at least a basic knowledge of theory, one would have a very difficult time with it.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
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I am so offended I don't know what I am going to do!
 
dogooder said:
I am so offended I don't know what I am going to do!
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Practice. Practice. Practice.
I sometimes wish I still had my steel. It's such a beautiful, expressive instrument.
Plus, no matter how bad I was, people were still amazed that I could make it sound good :)
 
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