Remodeling

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John Sayers said:


you let you GF dictate your gear??:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

cheers
John

heh... well... not gear per se... but when it comes to the design/look of the space... she wins... well, she is a designer and her taste is much better than mine anyway.

:D

its a two-way street... and it works pretty well... hell I even got her into this stuff... the fact that she actually *cares* is something... and she's learning the whole engineering thing... it all comes out even.
 
QUOTE;......"they all look like bumper pool tables from the 70's"

Hasn't she heard of the "Retro" trends in design............Gon Man, tell her to get with the times:D

:cool:
 
She lets you get the mixer but not a nice desk to cover up all the cables and mess?

For your space I wouldn't go with wood, it wouldn't look right in that space but something that was all black made out of MDF. I know you can get the stuff in white for kitchens and stuff but they must make black stuff with all the trim and stuff.

I'm not really sure what she means by "they all look like bumper pool tables from the 70's" but maybe she is talking about the wood.
 
Minusone,

Wow... I wasn't even paying attention.. just reading along and POP my name shows up in a post :)

I built my shelf partially because I didn't have enough room for monitor stands behind the console, and also I have two sidecars so I can't really do an Argosy or anything like that.

The shelf was REALLY easy to build... bought some nice precut. presanded lumber and drilled, glued and screwed it together :) took me all of 10 minutes :)

I see you have adopted a similar color scheme for your studio :) well done :)

Some day when I am adventurous, I will take more pictures of the room. I *did* resort to using Auralex foam in the room, but it still looks pretty nice.

I got a digital camera and such for Christmas... now if someone would just buy me some time to use it!

Velvet Elvis
 
There are many ways to keep the significant other pleased with your studio construction project, and not interfere very much.

1. Buy her shoes everytime you carry home a nice big synth, or recorder.

2. Dinners and flowers when you mess up her wagon by filling it up with wood, sheet rock, sandpaper, and tools.

3. Tell her having a studio will allow you to write music that will put you in the "mood" more often. If that doesn't work, suggest it will put you in the "mood" for slow dancing.

4. Assign her an area of her own. Suggest she make it a home office, home knitting room, whatever hobby she is interested in.

I'm engaged to a 5'10" black-belt feminist brunette, so none of the above worked. I had to resort to pouting, sad to say :)


minusone said:


heh... well... not gear per se... but when it comes to the design/look of the space... she wins... well, she is a designer and her taste is much better than mine anyway.

:D

its a two-way street... and it works pretty well... hell I even got her into this stuff... the fact that she actually *cares* is something... and she's learning the whole engineering thing... it all comes out even.
 
Velvet Elvis said:
Minusone,

Wow... I wasn't even paying attention.. just reading along and POP my name shows up in a post :)

I built my shelf partially because I didn't have enough room for monitor stands behind the console, and also I have two sidecars so I can't really do an Argosy or anything like that.

The shelf was REALLY easy to build... bought some nice precut. presanded lumber and drilled, glued and screwed it together :) took me all of 10 minutes :)

I see you have adopted a similar color scheme for your studio :) well done :)

Some day when I am adventurous, I will take more pictures of the room. I *did* resort to using Auralex foam in the room, but it still looks pretty nice.

I got a digital camera and such for Christmas... now if someone would just buy me some time to use it!

Velvet Elvis

heh... yeah, we both (my girlfriend and i) both really liked the design you used for your studio. we opted for a darker green, but we've always been a fan of green :) The walls that are white, we will be painting an "antique white" to tone it down some, but we don't want to go darker, or then we have the camo-look :)

When my girfriend saw the picture of your studio she immediately said "now, why don't you do something like that! so you don't have to get one of those clunky desks" :)

I'd love to see more images from your studio!

I think we may do the same thing for the monitor shelf... its form and function seem to fit perfectly in what we are trying to do.
 
Minusone...

I totally understand the GF thing... my wife is pretty particular about things too. The room is actually a pretty dark green... it has a lot of grey in the green color. I wanted the room to seem "cozy", and I knew the Auralex (which is white) would brighten it back up.

Most recently I ditched the chair in the studio and put in a nice full back leather chair :) My wife is even the one who bought it!

Now... wonder if she'll give me ANOTHER room ;-)

Velvet Elvis
 
frederic said:
There are many ways to keep the significant other pleased with your studio construction project, and not interfere very much.

1. Buy her shoes everytime you carry home a nice big synth, or recorder.

2. Dinners and flowers when you mess up her wagon by filling it up with wood, sheet rock, sandpaper, and tools.

3. Tell her having a studio will allow you to write music that will put you in the "mood" more often. If that doesn't work, suggest it will put you in the "mood" for slow dancing.

4. Assign her an area of her own. Suggest she make it a home office, home knitting room, whatever hobby she is interested in.

I'm engaged to a 5'10" black-belt feminist brunette, so none of the above worked. I had to resort to pouting, sad to say :)



LOL!!!

not bad... um... well see, she's really into the studio... in fact she's quite a vocalist (ala sarah shannon from velocity girl) and plays some guitar and she is learning to run the gear (and she's learning to play drums and sequence stuff)... so she is an active participant, but since she is a designer, she knows what she likes and doesn't like... i find myself agreeing (as I *used* to be a designer - now I'm just a software engineer) with her design sense.

She already has a whole room for her art table, computers (macs) and avant garde art and pictures of jack lemmon :)
 
Velvet Elvis said:
Minusone...

I totally understand the GF thing... my wife is pretty particular about things too. The room is actually a pretty dark green... it has a lot of grey in the green color. I wanted the room to seem "cozy", and I knew the Auralex (which is white) would brighten it back up.

Most recently I ditched the chair in the studio and put in a nice full back leather chair :) My wife is even the one who bought it!

Now... wonder if she'll give me ANOTHER room ;-)

Velvet Elvis

I got a question... is it possible to dye or stain auralex? if I got white... i could probably find a dye or stain to match the color we'll painting (the antique white-ish). Just want to make sure that the auralex material can be treated like that without destroying it.

P.s. I really dig the just william stuff by the way... reminds me of a tamer version of samiam, or something like jimmy eat world... i dunno... its very gool stuff... excellent production work :)
 
Minusone...

I've never actually tried staining it... I initially set out to surround each peice with stained wood trim... after realizing that I wanted to record sometime before I turn 100, I decided just to leave it as is. I would imagine the material could be dyed, but I would assume painting would make it reflective (take away some of the porousness of the material), which kind of defeats the purpose.

John?? any thoughts on this??

Thanks for the comments on the "just william" stuff. I didn't know anyone actually checked the stuff out :) We are still working to get it all finished, but our record company is having some financial issues, so they haven't given us a commit date yet... go figure.

If you get a chance... go listen to the "drum and bass" and the new version of "Angry at Angels"... let me know what you think of the guitars.

Velvet Elvis
 
Now... wonder if she'll give me ANOTHER room ;-)

Velvet Elvis [/B]



I already solved that problem. Right now, the 2-car garage "loft" is my "studio". Reality is, its nothing more than a control room and a vocal booth. While wiring, I ran two 24-pr balanced snakes from the control room to the garage, terminating in a 19" box mounted on the wall. Once my control room is done, I'll be soldering those ends in the garage, adding sound proofing (Auralex) and portable partitions so I can use the garage as a live room, yet still park the cars inside.

I just haven't told anyone yet, but the wiring is there :)
 
I've never actually tried staining it... I initially set out to surround

I sent one panel out for dying. Came out terrible, and the dye made the foam brittle.

It was either done incorrectly, or a bad idea. Don't forget that Auralex sells their products in many flame retardant colors, however its been my experience the darker the color, the longer the color lasts as that color. Whites, ivories, yellows tend to turn ugly after a few years. Charcoal and purple and their dark blue seems to hold color very well.
 
Well done frederic...

My solution thus far has been searching for new houses :) we have actively (for about a year) been searching for that "perfect house" that has room for those little things that run around your house... what are they called?? ummm.. kids.. that's it! And also room for a complete studio layout in the basement. If you notice the Auralex on my studio walls is held up with painted finish screws and brass washers... this is so I can "take it with me" as they say when we move.

Velvet Elvis
 
VE I used sonex in a studio once and we spray painted it in a soft bone colour and it lasted very well. It doesn't effect the properties of the foam, and it was actually pinted by our suppliers before delivery. We kept some of the paint so that we could touch up at any time.

If you want a light contrast to the dark green/grey don't use white but a grey tinted white. It will look white though ( your GF will already know that though :) )

When I used the sonex I also used a polished timber surround and it looked very nice :)

cheers
john
 
Thank you :) I try to plan ahead where possible.

Having moved somewhat often, I found that sticking velcro on the wall in spots here and there and sticking the foam on top of that works fairly well. Keeps my foam in good shape and the wall, well, its not mine and I can spray it quickly on the way out the door and it looks fine.

Being lucky, we don't have any rugrats. We have these other furry things (four in all) that are happy to look for mice, but not offer pursuit services.

towards the bottom of this thread are pictures of my studio under construction, if you are interested:

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=41683&pagenumber=1


Velvet Elvis said:
Well done frederic...

My solution thus far has been searching for new houses :) we have actively (for about a year) been searching for that "perfect house" that has room for those little things that run around your house... what are they called?? ummm.. kids.. that's it! And also room for a complete studio layout in the basement. If you notice the Auralex on my studio walls is held up with painted finish screws and brass washers... this is so I can "take it with me" as they say when we move.

Velvet Elvis
 
Can I ask what type of paint you utilized John? I ask because I have box after box of aurelex foam for my under construction studio, but was dredding having to tolerate purple and dark gray :)



John Sayers said:
VE I used sonex in a studio once and we spray painted it in a soft bone colour and it lasted very well. It doesn't effect the properties of the foam, and it was actually pinted by our suppliers before delivery. We kept some of the paint so that we could touch up at any time.

If you want a light contrast to the dark green/grey don't use white but a grey tinted white. It will look white though ( your GF will already know that though :) )

When I used the sonex I also used a polished timber surround and it looked very nice :)

cheers
john
 
Velvet Elvis said:
Well done frederic...

My solution thus far has been searching for new houses :) we have actively (for about a year) been searching for that "perfect house" that has room for those little things that run around your house... what are they called?? ummm.. kids.. that's it! And also room for a complete studio layout in the basement. If you notice the Auralex on my studio walls is held up with painted finish screws and brass washers... this is so I can "take it with me" as they say when we move.

Velvet Elvis

Perfect! Elvis... that is a great idea! I was NEVER too excited about using some industrial strength adhesive to stick arualex to the walls (I can just imagine how much of that crap I would have everywhere, and I just know I couldn't get the level on the first shot)... so actually "mounting" them to the wall does indeed seem to be a better idea!

great solution! :)

p.s. that's what I have... no not kids... a studio basement. Its actually really nice. It was built finished... has a lot of insulation, and there's a really cool utility room that is perfect as a vocal booth and soon-to-be a drum room (I call it the machine room... well... we do have a washer machine in there and a dryer :) )
 
I think it was just standard plastic house paint. we went to the shop and picked out a colour and the supplier did the rest.

hey - you could spray those furries to colour co-ordinate :D

cheers
John
 
shot)... so actually "mounting" them to the wall does indeed seem to be a better idea!

And if you get into room tuning, you can move them around fairly easily to help adjust the acoustical properties of the room. This is partly why I used the velcro.

p.s. that's what I have... no not kids... a studio basement. Its actually really nice. It was built finished... has a lot of insulation, and there's a really cool utility room that is perfect as a vocal booth and soon-to-be a drum room (I call it the machine room... well... we do have a washer machine in there and a dryer :) )

I have an electronic drumkit connected via Midi, so I can play modules, samplers, etc for simulated drums. Less requirements on space and of course, it doesn't have to be soundproof (drumming in the console room with this stuff is just fine). Regarding electronic drums, I am tortured as to where to buy those 1.25" clamps and bars that most of the kits come with. I do not wish to buy another kit just for the pieces, but I guess I'll keep torturing my local Sam Ash. Lord knows I buy enough there.
 
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