Re amping?

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ecktronic said:
Yeah you are totally right. I wish I knew more types of amps that suit hard rock/metal. Not realy any good shops near me that I can try any out unfortunately. :(
I know I don't want a Mesa since the other guitarist in my band has a Mesa.

Eck
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There is nothing wrong with both of you having a mesa. You can get plenty of sounds out of a Dual or Tripple rectifier, you don't have to match. Just having one of you with using the tube rectifier and the other using the diode rectifier would be enough of a difference. There are also a couple different modes that you can run the amplifier in.

As far as other companies, ENGL comes to mind. But with your soapbars, Mesa is probably the way to go. It's the most versatile amp that doesn't cost millions of dollars.
 
Farview said:
There is nothing wrong with both of you having a mesa. You can get plenty of sounds out of a Dual or Tripple rectifier, you don't have to match. Just having one of you with using the tube rectifier and the other using the diode rectifier would be enough of a difference. There are also a couple different modes that you can run the amplifier in.

As far as other companies, ENGL comes to mind. But with your soapbars, Mesa is probably the way to go. It's the most versatile amp that doesn't cost millions of dollars.
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Yeah you could be on to something here. :)
If I did have a Mesa I would definetly be using a different tone from my other guitarist, but it would be cool to have an amp of equal quality but different make.

Ill look into ENGL, thanks,

Eck
 
This sounds like a possible time waster/money maker for the studio.

If you can knock the songs out, just record them onsite. You're more likely to get exactly what you're looking for.
 
Supercreep said:
This sounds like a possible time waster/money maker for the studio.

If you can knock the songs out, just record them onsite. You're more likely to get exactly what you're looking for.
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Possibly. But as usual, it depends. If the studio is used to doing reamping and has good gear for it, it's definitely a time saver. Some of them do it routinely. Getting the perfect performance can take time even if you've rehearsed a ton. Then there's the time tuning and fiddling.

If the studio doesn't reamp much, then forget it. Just go in there and play.

All IMO.
 
Farview said:
There is nothing wrong with both of you having a mesa. You can get plenty of sounds out of a Dual or Tripple rectifier, you don't have to match. Just having one of you with using the tube rectifier and the other using the diode rectifier would be enough of a difference. There are also a couple different modes that you can run the amplifier in.

As far as other companies, ENGL comes to mind. But with your soapbars, Mesa is probably the way to go. It's the most versatile amp that doesn't cost millions of dollars.
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I've heard some pretty great tones out of a Mesa with a Strat, but for rockin' - nothing beats a pair of humbuckers thru a Marshall. Nothing! :D
 
That would be a DI box.
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i thought DI boxes convert a high-impedance instrument level signal to a low-impedance mic signal?

i was also under the impression that the impedance coming from the balanced line out would be fairly low already...and that its level would be much hotter than what you get from a guitar pickup/keyboard/whatever
 
Ironklad Audio said:
i thought DI boxes convert a high-impedance instrument level signal to a low-impedance mic signal?

i was also under the impression that the impedance coming from the balanced line out would be fairly low already...and that its level would be much hotter than what you get from a guitar pickup/keyboard/whatever
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Passive DI boxes are for line level signals, you can just use them for instruments too.
 
ahhhhh...

well knock me up and call me britney spears

i guess that using my passive DI to the impedance converter should do the trick then

now i just need to get my amp back :(
 
Farview said:
As far as other companies, ENGL comes to mind. But with your soapbars, Mesa is probably the way to go. It's the most versatile amp that doesn't cost millions of dollars.
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Woah, the Engl E670 seems like a great amp. Its about £$5,500 but this could be the amp for me. have you ever had a shot of one of these amps or heard much about them?

Eck
 
A band I work with has a powerball. I know that Dimmu Borgir use them. I figured they would be cheaper there since they are made in Germany. I'm not sure of the exchange rate, but that sounds expensive.
 
Farview said:
A band I work with has a powerball. I know that Dimmu Borgir use them. I figured they would be cheaper there since they are made in Germany. I'm not sure of the exchange rate, but that sounds expensive.
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That amp is the Engl's top of the line amp, its priced at £2,700!
US dollar is about twice the UK Sterling Pound but US prices are cheaper than the UK so maybe its about $4,500.

Here it is for £2,100: http://www.thomann.de/index.html?pa...l34_special_edition_head.htm?partner_id=59917

Eck
 
Farview said:
A band I work with has a powerball. I know that Dimmu Borgir use them. I figured they would be cheaper there since they are made in Germany. I'm not sure of the exchange rate, but that sounds expensive.
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How did you find the Powerball for recording? Did you use it for heavy tones?

Eck
 
ecktronic said:
How did you find the Powerball for recording? Did you use it for heavy tones?

Eck
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The band that has it is an old school power metal band (Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, etc...) and it works fine. I'm sure you could get something more modern out of it, I've never had to try.

I would still go with the Mesa and just a different setting. The ENGL's, just like the Marshalls, are one-trick-ponies. Each amp they make does one thing very well. If you need that one thing you are fine, if not, you're screwed.
 
i've heard some shit killer shit that done with ENGL's, but when it comes down to it, probably the cheapest option for a killer rock/metal amp would be a used 5150 - they routinely sell for $600-800, and i've seen them go on ebay as cheap as $500

i've also seen the 2x12 combo sell for $500-600
 
Farview said:
I would still go with the Mesa and just a different setting. The ENGL's, just like the Marshalls, are one-trick-ponies. Each amp they make does one thing very well. If you need that one thing you are fine, if not, you're screwed.
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Ive been reading up about the Engl E670 and its meant to be a very versatile amp. Where did you hear that the Engl is a 1 trick pony?

Cheers,
Eck
 
Ironklad Audio said:
i've heard some shit killer shit that done with ENGL's, but when it comes down to it, probably the cheapest option for a killer rock/metal amp would be a used 5150 - they routinely sell for $600-800, and i've seen them go on ebay as cheap as $500

i've also seen the 2x12 combo sell for $500-600
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IM looking for an upgrade from my Marshall. Would you say Peavy is an upgrade from Marshall? Ive always hated Peavy amps. Never got good tones from them specially their bass amps.

Cheers,
Eck
 
ecktronic said:
Ive been reading up about the Engl E670 and its meant to be a very versatile amp. Where did you hear that the Engl is a 1 trick pony?

Cheers,
Eck
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The powerball is. Most Tube amps that don't have a bunch of buttons that completely change the circuit are one trick ponies. That's just how it works.
 
I did some work for Randall, and in a previous life, Washburn (who owns Randall). I will never buy or recomend a Randall. EVER!
 
Farview said:
I did some work for Randall, and in a previous life, Washburn (who owns Randall). I will never buy or recomend a Randall. EVER!
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The Egnater stuff (MTS) is in a whole different league. Have you tried it? You can get a 4 module preamp, and a power amp that has a 6L6 output and an EL34 output. Talk about versatility! I know randall was pretty much junk in the 90's though.......
 
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