Public Mix Contest #11 !!!!!!

[thajeremy]

The mp3 is here

link doesnt seem to be working...

 

[ocnor]

I had a little time this morning so I did another mix with the distortion guitars added. Any comments are appreciated.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/jerryronco_music.htm

 

[Kainz]

link doesnt seem to be working...

Ah, true enough. I did reupload the file. It should work now. Thanks for informing

 

[Raw-Tracks]

Needs a couple more tweaks, but take a listen anyway.

Has anyone else played around with sliding the snare drum forward a little? It seems like it's consistently behind the beat. My current mix has the snare lined up with the rest of the tracks, but it almost sounded better moved up about 20ms or so.

 

[Kainz]

Needs a couple more tweaks, but take a listen anyway.

Has anyone else played around with sliding the snare drum forward a little? It seems like it's consistently behind the beat. My current mix has the snare lined up with the rest of the tracks, but it almost sounded better moved up about 20ms or so.

Yes, I did play around with it. Decided to leave it at original position thou.. Sliding it forward does seem to tighten the beat and makes it overall more "rock" sounding. At least I think so

 

[mshilarious]

OK I am jumping in way, way behind here . . . tonight I have to do a rough master of a CD for a friend, then I have about an hour to listen to your mixes . . . PM me if you want special attention, with a link please!

 

[mshilarious]

OK here goes a few at a time. Please note I have not listened to the tracks and I don't intend to, also these aren't comprehensive reviews, just first impressions:

Disposable - Didn't work for me dawg (sorry I'm supposed to be Paula). The distortion is distracting during the verses, work on that balance as well as vocal balance, roll the distortion on the verses. Overall the mix sounds hollow, distant (lots o' verb), and quiet. The verses aren't evenly loud, they get louder each time and there are stray peaks.

ocnor - that is a loud mix, very tiring, and what is the deal with the phase/flanging effect on everything? Even the backing vocals? Is this some bizarre mp3 artifact?

Kainz - decent mix. Again with the distorted guitar, it's like it's always there, like a drone on a bagpipe that I want to go away. Automate that thing, people.

jerberson - get the lead singer in a more forward space than the backing singers. He's got a distant verb, plus they are brighter than he is. Confusing. The snare sound isn't there yet.

Raw-tracks - great tone on the lead guitar. Again I want to hear less of the distorted rhythm. Make me beg for it. Good dynamics. See if you can bring out the "mwah" of the bass a bit better. Sorry, I'm a bass player

tenkas - OK here goes Paula: you took the song and made it your own. Definitely the most different, I think it could work if you got the backing singers out of the cavern you banished them to Plus gimme just a little of the distorted rhythm at a couple of places. Also your interlude needs work, the lead is too forward, sounds like a guitar rehearsal tape.


Sorry if I was a bastard, I promise to be nicer when the judging counts

 

[mshilarious]

more more more:

thajeremy: Warm, almost analog vibe. Good separation. Nice. I could stand a bit of air on the cymbals and maybe a touch of limiting. Snare gets a little out of control towards the end.

strave: click goes the kick--it ain't metal! Hmm, a bass louder than the lead--are you trying to bribe me?

Dogman - dude, don't make me go all Simon on you I don't like your approach on the intro at all, seems very '80s to me. Lots of balance issues too, and note xfinsterx's comment about compression. I do like your interlude, you pull off the interplay of the guitars.

7string - it was a'ight. Sort of a lo-fi vibe, very dry (actually by now I needed a towel). Not my cup of tea but you could make it work if you warmed it up a bit, as it stands now, it's dark and hollow. Peaky towards the end.

 

[mshilarious]

Night folks! I'll be back tomorrow night to accept your derision!

 

[ocnor]

ocnor - that is a loud mix, very tiring, and what is the deal with the phase/flanging effect on everything? Even the backing vocals? Is this some bizarre mp3 artifact?

I'm not really sure what you mean. We are talking about PMC 11 mix2 right?The only Phase/flanging effect that I used was on the distortion guitars. I used a little reverb and delay on the vocals but thats about it for the FX.
The first mix that I did without the distortion guitars was a little loud because I used a limiter. I didn't use any compression or limiting on the second mix so it is not nearly as loud.

 

[Dogman]

more more more:


Dogman - dude, don't make me go all Simon on you I don't like your approach on the intro at all, seems very '80s to me. Lots of balance issues too, and note xfinsterx's comment about compression. I do like your interlude, you pull off the interplay of the guitars.

Oh, man!! You shouldn't have listened to that!! It could have caused permanent brain damage.

I'm working on a better one, but as you can tell, I'm not so good at mixing.
Thanks for listening, and criticing. Hopefully I will learn alot here.
Ed

 

[xfinsterx]

Heya all again!

Here comes my almost the final one. I would say I'm starting to be around 98% ready here. What do you think? And Chris are the dynamics any better?


The mp3 is here

Id say thats a wrap Kainz.
Nice work!

-Finster

 

[xfinsterx]

I had a little time this morning so I did another mix with the distortion guitars added. Any comments are appreciated.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/4/jerryronco_music.htm

Hard to judge this.
The panning effect on the guitars was so distracting that it was hard to gain perspective of anything else.

-Finster

 

[xfinsterx]

Needs a couple more tweaks, but take a listen anyway.

Has anyone else played around with sliding the snare drum forward a little? It seems like it's consistently behind the beat. My current mix has the snare lined up with the rest of the tracks, but it almost sounded better moved up about 20ms or so.

Hmm.
I like how you basicly tuned it into a rock.soul song as opposed to a soul/acoutic one.
Cool lead tone.

Bumping the snare forward....in theory i guess that does change the feel.
But in terms of phase relation to the overheads, it seemed to make the snare sound a little puny.

-Finster

 

[Raw-Tracks]

Bumping the snare forward....in theory i guess that does change the feel.
But in terms of phase relation to the overheads, it seemed to make the snare sound a little puny.

-Finster

The snare has not been moved in the mix I have up right now. I am, however, not happy with the snare sound in that mix. I need to work on that. I don't have Drumagog or any other way to replace the snare. I wish I did. I will just have to experiment a little more.

 

[xfinsterx]

OK i change my mind about telling "first and final shot" about my mix. well this is my second shot....Xfin i took off the drumagog and drums are all original tracks again, tell me hows the mix for this one thnx

The snare....Gated reverb, then compression?
I didnt care for it personally, but im sure some people will.

The band gets buried during the hook.
It seemed to be all vocal.

-Finster

 

[xfinsterx]

The snare has not been moved in the mix I have up right now. I am, however, not happy with the snare sound in that mix. I need to work on that. I don't have Drumagog or any other way to replace the snare. I wish I did. I will just have to experiment a little more.

Ahh my bad. I just read the entire post.
You said it almost sounded better....not it does and i did it.
oops!

Anyhow, good luck with that snare.
Im sure youll work it out.

-Finster

 

[xfinsterx]

This is my entry:

Any comments???

Thx

Interesting.
You made the intro of this song somehow feel like the intro to Bon Jovi's
"Dead or Alive".
This actually sounded pretty good to me.
Only thing i would say really hit me was the weakness of the snare.

 

[xfinsterx]

Uploading my first mix of this... Almost NO time spent at all,
So, I won't be surprised if it sucks hardcore. Vox may be a bit quiet.
Dist Guit, I don't really care for but, oh well.

http://www.fronder.com/bands/388/music.php
"PMC11-Premix1"

You can tell the parts that I did and didn't like.

Ill wait to review.... after youve spent some real time on it ill do one.

-Finster

 

[xfinsterx]

once again Fin...i want to thank you for all the comments you are making...I think that is what makes these contests so helpful.

Im still scared to say that this is my final mix...but since we have so long till the end of the contest, I think i will take a couple of days break from it...although it is a really good song.

anymore suggestions???

Right on Jeremy!
That sounded alot better man.
Kick and snare sound great.
The mix breathes nicely too.
The backing vocals sound downright drab though.
Try to liven the backing vox;s tones up a bit.
Not louder or softer....just more interesting.

-Finster