Pretenzije feat. Žargi: "Odpoved"

[joeym]

Man, you really have it all wrong.
I never said my song was better or that this is some kind of competition. What I said was that you singled things out in my song that you said were wrong (song is plastic, rythm guitar stale, bad drum programming, vocals no energy) and I expected these same things to be better in your work. Well, they're not, and I've already told you my impressions to your song, I don't have to repeat that. I comment on almost everybody's stuff here and never before have I had any issues with anyone. When things weren't right with my songs, people here told me about it and I accepted and learned from their criticism. I respect other peoples' taste in music too, so this has nothing to do with the style you record or whether it's dated or not. I don't think in those terms and the people who know me here know that. But you came on blowing your horns loud. Now you even admit that you never even mixed songs in stereo before????? And you want to tell me what's wrong with my song????
Anyway, this is the last time I'm answering, this is a waste of time.

 

[EL34]

I don't think it's that bad
It's just not anything I would seek out to listen to.
It was entertaining to me and I was able to listen all the way through, which I cannot do on many other tunes.

not sure what that says or does not say.

I am sure this genre has it's fans/advocates
Who can fault someone for liking a certain period in music history.

I am stuck in the guitar instrumental era.

Anywho, not sure what the dispute is all about, I don't tune in to all that sort of stuff.

It's just home recordings folks.
Don't get all serious about it, it's just music.
Music is just music.

 

[PoeticIntensity]

You might not believe it, but that's my first-ever song in stereo. My previous mixer had a dead right master channel and I've never bothered to get it fixed, so doing things in stereo is still a new and very conscious thing for me. What exactly did you have in mind though, just pan the existing stuff harder or actually arrange more stuff in proper stereo (by having complementary instrumental parts on each side, the same part playing by two respectively panned instruments etc.)?

Yeah.. I took a digital audio recording class while I was in college, and one thing a very respected audio teacher said was, "Don't be afraid of panning."

In my drum recordings, I hard pan R/L the overheads, the keyboards I record are also recorded stereo with hard R/L panning - sometimes I even add a "spatial maximizer" plugin to that to make it even wider.

So, yeah, I don't know how many tracks your song has, but I'd look at what you can do to really widen that stereo image. Maybe not the bass, but any other keys and the drums could be panned wider.

I'm not sure how else to say it, other than the resulting stereo image isn't as wide as I think it could be. I think it'd help the song to use the whole stage.

Sorry... I'm a bit under the weather... I hope that made sense.

 

[MMensch]

It made perfect sense actually, I just don't think I'm ready to get this radical with panning - I don't really like it when instruments that are placed more than, say, 45 degrees to either side to be honest. I think I'll rather will work on doing some proper stereo synth arrangements in the future to animate the stereo stage in this way.

Anyway, this is the last time I'm answering, this is a waste of time.

So I get to have the last word, hooray! Let me revel in my triumph then ...

... so I've got it all wrong and you would've been just as spiteful if I'd said nice things about your material? You've got some self-contradicting logic at work there - on the one hand, you claim that you accepted all criticism in the past, but then you go and deny the legitimacy of what I said because I'm supposedly unqualified to give an opinion (I'm beginning to regret that I didn't adopt stereo earlier now). But did you really go and check the credentials of every person that ever commented on your stuff - maybe the ones who praised you didn't know what the hell they were talking about, either. Or did that not matter quite as much to you because you liked what you heard? Your problem is that you simply can't believe that I could honestly not like your song (which is a potentially very dangerous mindset to have as an artist) and now you're merely trying to rationalise how my words couldn't possibly have any weight to them anyway.

Actually, there's a classic play about the eternal struggle between my kind and yours, The Misanthrope by Moli`ere. I'd recommend it to you if I thought you had any sense of self-irony, but you'd probably feel that reading it was a waste of time, too (or find that Alceste had no place slagging Oronte's fine sonnet in the first place).