Preamp questions...Veeery important.

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Dude, that GR pre is about the last thing you'll want to upgrade to.

I'd make sure your instruments, room, mics, cables, monitors and converters are up to snuff before laying down the cash for one of these pres.

Mics will make really big immediate difference. Pres are pretty subtle, and if your room sucks or your mics suck or your monitors suck you might not even be able to hear the difference.
 
mrhotapples said:
How are the ADA converters on the Firepod? I've heard that MOTU's fw devices are better equipped. What would, in the end, be the best quality vs. price AD converter I could buy? I apologize for the questions, heh.

If you are planning to do recording for a long time, there is nothing wrong in buying a great mic pre. Buying it now only means that you have to work at improving the other links in your signal chain and not having to reinvest money into replacing a mediocre mic pre that has lost its resell value.

If you already have a job lined up that you know 100% will pay for the mic pre, a short term loan would be ok, but if the job won't pay for itself, I would hold off and SAVE more money before buying it.

Recording is not a hobby you want to put yourself in debt for.
 
Yeah...After lots of consideration thanks to you guys...I'll hold off...I realize that the difference between the sound of my Firepod and something 'better' won't be worth spending any money on if the rest of my chain sucks. It's mostly for the fact that it would be an investment for later on, and it's good for marketting. I'm sure I'll buy a U87 one day just to say I have one when I'm speaking to bands. Big equipment is good for marketting. I could say I've got a great sounding room with a nice even response or a thousand dollar preamp. Which is more impressive to a layman?

For now, I guess I'm going to fuck that loan and do what I can to improve my sound in other areas...My room could still use some work. Like maybe a canopy or some more bass trapping. I'm in a 20x20 garage and I would like to be able to record drums in here, I'm using a smaller room for that...But the bass verbs like a motherfucker in here and that's bad for most of the music I record...Very bad.

Maybe I should build a wall in here so it's not a square?

Oh well. Another thread. Thanks for the soberuppering.
 
mrhotapples said:
I'm taking out a loan within the next month to purchase a new preamp. An expensive one. A Great River or a one of these so I can have it for a few projects that are gonna make the money back pretty quickly.

What else am I gonna need to get so that when I make a sound and a mic picks it up, it gets into my computer and shows up in Sonar? I've got a Firepod right now so I'm not used to having separate mic pres.


Wait, back up for a second.


What is your game plan here? What's your reasoning behind having chose this type of preamp?
 
LeeRosario said:
Wait, back up for a second.


What is your game plan here? What's your reasoning behind having chose this type of preamp?

I think he said he wants something to add color. Apparently the Firepod is starting to sound too sterile to him...or he just wants some variety.

(I don't blame him, I would too.)

Mr Apples, perhaps you could do a few more sessions with the Firepod and save up some jack along the way. Then it wouldn't be a strain on your budget.

Or you can rent gear from music stores and gear houses in most cities. That way you could test drive a few at your leisure before you buy. ;)

RD
 
I think one of the other driving factors was the big name, big expense of a nice pre.

But, that isn't THAT much of a draw if its the only expensive gear you have.

I'd say, build up the room, and the sound quality from the same mics and pres will go up, even just a bit/
 
DavidK said:
You will also need a place to store that gear. May I suggest this?

Is that jane seymour's house? If it is, I second that recommendation. You'll sound like Radiohead for sure.
 
rory said:
Since you're taking out a loan, get these:

Mic: http://www.mercenary.com/migeumtphtum.html

Apparently that mic is so new, or so rare, that not even the company has real pictures for it.

That shot is, as far as I can tell, a rendering of a 3D model representing said mic.

Nice piece though.

As for preamps, Hell - I'm happy with my M-Audio DMP-3. It isn't the most solidly built item I've ever purchased, but it is very clean for the price. I'd love to get somethin better, but I've got better things to spend my money on, and as someone above mentioned, the hobby of recording is not something you want to get yourself into debt over, as it isn't really all that necessary.

If it were a business, then perhaps, but for now, I'd look into saving some cash and maybe invest in some decent mics. What are you using now, out of curiosity?
 
cusebassman said:
Apparently that mic is so new, or so rare, that not even the company has real pictures for it.

That shot is, as far as I can tell, a rendering of a 3D model representing said mic.


Better get your eyes checked then, because that's a photo. :D

The UM900 is neither new, nor rare. They've been shipping for several years now. They sound even cooler than they look, too! I found a deal on one (demo) a few months back, and it is even better than I expected - gives my top-of-the-line Brauners a run for the money (& they cost me more than twice as much).

...But back to the topic - I agree with those who said that acoustic treatment and an upgrade in the microphone department will do far more for your sound. Rent, borrow or beg some microphones to try out; only your own ears, in your own recording space, will tell you what will be best for you. For acoustic treatment, start here: http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/24/page/1 and do a lot of reading; ask questions, download test software to "shoot" your room and/or hire someone reputable to help you. Most people get acoustic treatment wrong the first time - spend the time (& money) to do it right the first time.
 
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