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As a consumer, this sounds really good. Reminds me of some older Sir Paul tunes.
 
David Katauskas said:
Welcome to the forum!
As a consumer, this sounds really good. Reminds me of some older Sir Paul tunes.

Wow, that was fast, I appreciate the listen, thanks a lot, David!

When you say older Paul, do you mean older songs when he was younger, or newer songs when he is older? Either way, very cool, thanks.
 
LOL...soon after he broke from the Beatles. :D
If you have more...please post.
 
This is an unusally good song.

Where've you been buddy? Damn, this is good writing and performance. David's right about the Paul reference in the vocal quality, the writing and arranging. My only suggestion is that maybe it's just a little over compressed in the piano part. But the quality of the song itself makes me question any suggestion I'd make.

This is an unusually good song. Sh*t, you've got me teary-eyed now.

EDIT: I've been listening over and over and just can't believe what I'm hearing. Sounds like it was professionally recorded and mastered. Who are you really?

Tim
 
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Great melody. Excellent singing. The drums sound a bit "mechanical" in spots. The recording sounds a bit over-compressed to my ears, but that's the vogue today, I suppose.

A "keeper". Very enjoyable overall.

Got any more? :D
 
Very good job! Yeah I definitely second the Paul reference, though I would say it's definitely beatles-era. Specifically, it reminds me of "For No One" somewhat.

Good singing. Good use of the doubled vocal in spots. Wow, the harmonies even sound like the Beatles sounded.

I think the recording sounds nice and clear. The only criticisms I have really are the acoustic guitar parts at 1:55. They sound a little jarring when they chop off really quickly at the end of each arpeggio like that. I don't really know how this would be fixed though, other than reworking the part. They don't sound bad at all, just a little unexpected like that.

The only other thing that, after the first line of each chorus, there's kind of a dead spot (on the VI chord). I was kind of wanting to hear some kind of ear candy on that spot in the later choruses. I don't know what really, maybe just an instrument doing a little melody or something.

Anyway, this is really nitpicky stuff. This is definitely one of the best tunes/recordings I've heard on this board for sure. Great job!
 
Well I never was much into the Beetles (generation thing) so I dont get the Sir Paul reference.

Nontheless

Sweet tune. I like the song, and the production is awesome! Only comment i could make would be my need to hear more tone from the piano. The acoustic sounds good, now just get that pianer opened up.
 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


Dude, that was really really nice. I couldn't hear anything wrong with the mix, Like DonF said slightly over compressed, but thats modern day music. I would enjoy listening to more of this.

Is this your band? What is the name of the band?

Also adding some more vox harmonies would really help it shine, I can hear 2 vox melody lines, But one more would be cool.

But i'm just being fussy, lol. To be honest it's just as lovley as it is. :D

GOOD JOB! Now as Tim asked - who are you :eek:
 
Most excellent, indeed!

In its current state, it doesn't need much of anything really, does it?

Listening on computer speakers it is hard to say, but I think the reason that the piano sounds a bit over-compressed is because it's not really a piano. Is it a 'digital' piano, or something similar, perchance?

Great song.

It would be cool to hear more. . .
 
I like the song. Well written and played. A bit too much compression for my tastes. Sounds like some Autotune in there, but I could be mistaken. Anyway, if this is home recorded stuff, it's well done. I might pull the acoustics back a little and allow a little more dynamic flow.
 
Kafer, I've got a gut feeling about who you are and I can respect the desire for privacy. Welcome to the forum. I hope you post music frequently and join in the discussion here as well.

Already said what I think of the song in general terms. Witty lyrics. Been listening to it a lot. Some things I'm noticing at the moment: I like the counterpoint of the bass line. It's not just a supporting sonority but a well crafted independent line. Something about the 1-7-6... descending bass at the start of a piece - whether it's Bach or pop - always pulls me in as a listener. At 1:48 I like the layering of sonorities in the arrangement as the parts build. Starts with a thinner texture and builds to give a feeling of added intensity to the last section without having to add more parts and change the sense of unity in the instrumentation. Pretty crafty. I like the drum part’s feel when it hangs back from the beat on occasion.

The piano sounds maybe a little too rich and perfect, if that can be any kind of criticism. HA. Guess what I'm thinking is that if I could sense the pianist "working" more in the playing it'd give it a more personal dimension that fits the "on stage" subject and mood of the lyrics.

I'm hearing the ac gtr part with a different angle than what famous beagle mentioned. I like the writing but there's something about the guitar's high freq edge that increases as its arpeggio figures rise (first at :10 and :12). Makes it stand out well against the piano's similar figure but seems just a little too hard edged to me in relation to the sweet sound of the overall arrangement.

Hoping you post more of your work.

Tim
 
Thanks a lot for the great responses...I posted on another board, and no one said nothing...

David-thanks again for the comparison to (early solo) Paul, that's pretty cool.

Timothy-thanks...teary-eyed in a good way, I hope...I'm just an idiot with a little bedroom studio, but I've been working hard on learning how to record and stuff, so I appreciate your comments a lot. Thanks.

DonF-I hear what you're saying about the drums....I did three takes, then edited together the takes picking out the hits that looked closest to the grid without moving them, hoping that would keep a real feel instead of just lining one take up to the grid. I suppose this was a mistake. I think I have a tendency to play behind the beat, which is probably a good thing. I'm trying to figure out a way to get a decent sound with a decent feel without having to spend hours doing a million takes or without having to spend hours editing the life out of them. Thanks very much for the listen.

famous beagle-"For No One", that's cool, I suppose it's that descending bass thing...I know what you mean about more "ear candy", I did have some other vocal things, but I took them out, I'm trying to keep stuff simple, I guess. Thanks for listening.

VSpaceBoy-Thanks a lot. I guess I over-processed the piano, I wonder if that's it....thanks again, very much.

drummerdude666-Too much compression, I know...I got a UAD card not long ago, and I've been going nuts with it. No band, just me...Thanks a lot for listening.

Incanus-Thank you. It is a digital piano, the gigapiano...and it is probably already compressed, but I went ahead and compressed it more, and then compressed the whole song some more....I was listening to some things, and there's just a lot of compression, so....but I wish I had a real piano....the gigapiano sounds okay on it's own, but then when I try and mix it with other stuff, it seems to get lost, dull and lifeless, so I try to process it into something, but....

scrubs-Thanks. I actually had another version where I "mastered" it with a more reasonable amount of compression, but, oh well....the autotune sound must be the doubling in the choruses? I hope that's what you're hearing....thanks for listening.
 
Ok, last thing i wanted to add. I've heard this song before......

I remember it because when i heard it the first time it reminded me of Ben Folds. Also the lyric "my backs against the wall", I've used that lyric is a song i wrote a few weeks ago and that lyric just stuck in my head.

I think i heard this song in on The Bob Harris Show (BBC radio 2). So i might be mistaken but either way. Welcome to this forum.

Btw, if you could PM if it was you on the show, as it's really really bugging me. lol.
 
Liked the tune. Actually reminds me of the stuff I heard from Supercreep, and Icanus. Very good melodies happening. Song just has a very pretty sound. Poppy, happy, and bright. Recording is pretty good also. I hope to be there some day, but will probably die of old age before I learn that much.

Nice....
Ed
 
Professional production, and sweet tune, i agree :) But i thought i'd counterbalance the overall positive comments, just to be annoying :D I don't like the "chorus" at all, and someone commented about the track sounding very compressed; i too wish it were more dynamic, but that's also in the way the song is performed... not all music needs it. Just my 2 cents worth.

Having said that, i'm not a macca fan.... :p






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Timothy Lawler said:
Kafer, I've got a gut feeling about who you are and I can respect the desire for privacy. Welcome to the forum. I hope you post music frequently and join in the discussion here as well.

Already said what I think of the song in general terms. Witty lyrics. Been listening to it a lot. Some things I'm noticing at the moment: I like the counterpoint of the bass line. It's not just a supporting sonority but a well crafted independent line. Something about the 1-7-6... descending bass at the start of a piece - whether it's Bach or pop - always pulls me in as a listener. At 1:48 I like the layering of sonorities in the arrangement as the parts build. Starts with a thinner texture and builds to give a feeling of added intensity to the last section without having to add more parts and change the sense of unity in the instrumentation. Pretty crafty. I like the drum part’s feel when it hangs back from the beat on occasion.

The piano sounds maybe a little too rich and perfect, if that can be any kind of criticism. HA. Guess what I'm thinking is that if I could sense the pianist "working" more in the playing it'd give it a more personal dimension that fits the "on stage" subject and mood of the lyrics.

I'm hearing the ac gtr part with a different angle than what famous beagle mentioned. I like the writing but there's something about the guitar's high freq edge that increases as its arpeggio figures rise (first at :10 and :12). Makes it stand out well against the piano's similar figure but seems just a little too hard edged to me in relation to the sweet sound of the overall arrangement.

Hoping you post more of your work.

Tim

Hey, you must have just posted this...

Thanks very much for the detailed review, really great.

I agree with what you're saying in regard to the piano and acoustic. I'm in the midst of trying to figure out some sort of balance and system...I think that's the hardest part when you're doing it all yourself...trying to be a band, but having to do everything one track at a time to a click...if you're a bit sloppy, it doesn't have the same band sloppiness that is good, it's more just plain old sloppy...but if you under do it, it sounds stilted, dull and lifeless...and then the mixing side, same thing...if you under do it, it just doesn't sound like a CD or the radio or whatever, but if you over do it, stuff like edgy acoustics.

So the feedback here has been great, I really appreciate it.
 
I can't keep up with the replies!

drummerdude666-No way you've heard the song before, unless I somehow plagiarized a song I've never heard...no it's not me on any show, never even heard of the bob harris show...but thanks!

Dogman-Cool, thanks, glad you like it!

madmush-That's cool, I appreciate the negativity, if it were all positive, than I'd think, ah, everyone's just being nice. So thanks!

Okay, gotta go...
 
Kafer said:
DonF-I hear what you're saying about the drums....
The only part that really bothered me was between 1:45 and 2:05. All the ride hits sound the same to me. A little variation there would make it sound less mechanical. But I admit I'm just nitpicking.

The song reminds me of someone who used to post stuff here. He had some really good tunes, extremely well produced, and often sounding very Beatle-ish. Mac-something-or-other, he was called....

(edit) Just found out that German "käfer" = English "beetle". Cute.
 
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