Please critique my Drum tone

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Bisson820 said:
You're an idiot. stop assuming and trying to be a smartass.
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Dude, I may well be an idiot, and I did make some assumptions - but there is no way in hell that I was trying to be a smart-ass. I honestly thought the kit was electronic. I asked. Greg_l set me straight. I think my points about verb, and trying to get a drum mix in isolation were are valid.
 
Greg_L said:
Okay, what's your mic positioning? Why is the snare all the way to the left?
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The snare is panned to the left because remember I had two snare tones going and I panned one left (close mic) and one right (tom1 mic). I simply forgot to pan that close mic back to center when I bounce it. Do you want me to bounce another sample with the close mic centered?

Not sure on the exact mic positioning as the band tracked the drums at another studio and I was not involved with the set up.
 
metalj said:
The snare is panned to the left because remember I had two snare tones going and I panned one left (close mic) and one right (tom1 mic). I simply forgot to pan that close mic back to center when I bounce it. Do you want me to bounce another sample with the close mic centered?

Not sure on the exact mic positioning as the band tracked the drums at another studio and I was not involved with the set up.
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I see. First off all that snare panning is silly. Just use the one snare track. Relying on a Tom track for snare sound is generally pretty goofy.

Yes please post up a clip with no trickery or processing. I just wanna hear the raw drums. Snare centered. Kick centered. Toms panned as you wish. Overhead center, or if its multiple overheads panned wide to each side.
 
Dry drums with Snare centered

Two samples for you here.

Snare 1 mix = just the one close mic right on the snare

Snare 2 mix = just the snare that bled into the Tom1 mic.

Just raw drums with no processing at all on them. No trickery :)

FYI, there is also dual OH mics panned hard right and Left and 1 stereo room mic.
 

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If it's a black sabbath type song it seems the hits are a little weak but maybe I just need to hear it in the mix. Seems like the drums aren't being hit very hard. I'm no expert or anything :p
 
Telegram Sam said:
It is electronic, right?
Good thread BTW. :thumbup:
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No, full acoustic set.

The one thing I cannot verify since I did not record the drums is the signal chain from the mic going into protools. Im guessing they were gated to stop too much bleed, and also I don't know if the guy who recorded them would have printed them with compression.

I do know that all the snares and toms had sm57's on them and the kick had a AKG D112 on it. Not sure what the overhead were or the stereo room mic.
 
metalj said:
Two samples for you here.

Snare 1 mix = just the one close mic right on the snare

Snare 2 mix = just the snare that bled into the Tom1 mic.

Just raw drums with no processing at all on them. No trickery :)

FYI, there is also dual OH mics panned hard right and Left and 1 stereo room mic.
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The "snare bleed into the tom" track doesn't open for me.

The regular snare track does though, and it sounds mostly fine. You should be able to work with that without the crazy editing and using snare bleed from another track.
 
Snare 2 attempts to open as a GIF.
It's all a bit gentle like you're trying to play jazz without a jazz rhythm.
The cymbals really sizzle and do so for a LONG time.
No bass in the bass drum.
Is that a piece of sheet metal struck at the beginning?
 
Snare 2 Try again

Ill try again with Snare 2.

Let me know if it works.
 
rayc said:
Snare 2 attempts to open as a GIF.
It's all a bit gentle like you're trying to play jazz without a jazz rhythm.
The cymbals really sizzle and do so for a LONG time.
No bass in the bass drum.
Is that a piece of sheet metal struck at the beginning?
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Could you make any specific suggestions as to what I could do to get it to sound good?

Again the last two attachments are just raw studio mics.
 
rayc said:
Snare 2 attempts to open as a GIF.
It's all a bit gentle like you're trying to play jazz without a jazz rhythm.
The cymbals really sizzle and do so for a LONG time.
No bass in the bass drum.
Is that a piece of sheet metal struck at the beginning?
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Could you make any specific suggestions as to what I could do to get it to sound good?

Again the last two attachments are just raw studio mics.



HOPE THE ATTACHMENT WORKS THIS TIME>
 
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