please compare and critique

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hey guys, please listen to these 2 identical songs and tell me if you think im on the right track with my mixing and lame attempt at mastering. the first one was done before i knew anything (still dont) about compression and the 'mastering' process, but i am living and learning as i go along. any advice/critique/comment is welcome.

first attempt. mixed down and saved with no additional 'finishing' work:


newest rendition with some compression and slight reverb added to 'finish' it up:


again, any input is welcome and appreciated. :)
 
Yep - version two definitely sounds more polished. It's brighter, drums are punchier, vocals clearer, and added smoothness from the reverb....
You're a natural at this music stuff..... :) ;) :D

Great Job!
 
ido1957 said:
Yep - version two definitely sounds more polished. It's brighter, drums are punchier, vocals clearer, and added smoothness from the reverb....
You're a natural at this music stuff..... :) ;) :D

Great Job!
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lol. thank you very much. :)

someone in another thread (sorry i cant remember who) mentioned something about over-compressing giving a 'breathing' effect to the piece. i cant hear anything like that but maybe some of yall with better ears can tell me if this is happening? :confused:
 
Sounds pretty good to me. Def nice and loud and punchy, but not oer compressed mush.

I dont get any "breathing" sound from the compression either.

Simon
 
Greg_L said:
lol. thank you very much. :)

someone in another thread (sorry i cant remember who) mentioned something about over-compressing giving a 'breathing' effect to the piece. i cant hear anything like that but maybe some of yall with better ears can tell me if this is happening? :confused:
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That "breathing" sound is also called compressor pumping. Compressor pumping, where a regular amplitude peak (such as a kick drum) causes the rest of the mix to change in volume due to the compressor, is generally avoided in music production. However, many dance musicians use this phenomenon in a creative way, causing the mix to 'pump' rhythmically in time with the beat.

As far as the pumping goes in your mastered song, I can hear a little bit of it. And as far as fixing that problem, maybe take the gain down on the compressor a little bit.
 
jndietz said:
That "breathing" sound is also called compressor pumping. Compressor pumping, where a regular amplitude peak (such as a kick drum) causes the rest of the mix to change in volume due to the compressor, is generally avoided in music production. However, many dance musicians use this phenomenon in a creative way, causing the mix to 'pump' rhythmically in time with the beat.

As far as the pumping goes in your mastered song, I can hear a little bit of it. And as far as fixing that problem, maybe take the gain down on the compressor a little bit.
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oh okay. thanks for that explanation. i thought i could faintly hear it a little, but wasnt exactly sure what i was listening for.
 
I only listened to each one twice.
I liked the second or lower one better.
Drums noticeably better at the starting gate.

Seems there's something "blurring" a bit in the infamous bass area.
maybe the compressor as someone stated or just ready for some magic mastering.

personally I like the art work of windows media player,cool..
but in my opinion, soundclick and few others I've played sound better? clearer...anyone else hear that. I think Windows Media player adds some mush-potatoes. :p
 
The second mix is noticeably better. The effect you added to the guitar was just right IMO. Didn't really notice much of a change on the vocals, but it could be the speakers that I'm listening through. Drums are definitely crisper, maybe a little on the loud side for me, but still good. Great piece.
 
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