Pico's studio

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To me, it sounds overly compressed. There are no dynamics left. If you look at the bargraphs in winamp as frederic suggests, they pretty much stay pegged for the whole song. Pretty tiresome on the ears.


Just my stupid old asshole opinion though. :p :D
 
Geezzzz! I thought I heard some explicit lyrics but I couldn't tell what the guy was saying so I guess it didn't matter...

Pico, if this is what your shooting for your not setting your sites very high. The mix is not bad but I don't get the point. A song should take you somewhere like a story....I don't understand why anyone would purposely damage their vocal chords to sound like that.

Oh well, Hows the pics coming?
 
heh-heh.

I went out of my way not to comment on the musical aspect of the songs, because I would be a lot more than rude. But I did go out of my way to be as objective as I could in regards to technique, advice, etc, because that's what Pico was really asking about... not the genre or style of music.

Style/Genre is subjective anyway.

I mean heck, in the 80's, I knew all the lyrics to every hair-band song there was. Some of you guys that are older than me would go "eeeew, that stuff sucks!" :D

BTW, Ron, got your email, thank you. I replied back similarly, however your mail server rejected it indicating you did not exist.

I guess you're a ghost, huh? :)
 
HangDawg said:
To me, it sounds overly compressed. There are no dynamics left. If you look at the bargraphs in winamp as frederic suggests, they pretty much stay pegged for the whole song. Pretty tiresome on the ears.


Just my stupid old asshole opinion though. :p :D
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Thats cool, but I'm looking for show stopping bugs such as distortion or terrible eq. Since most songs are compressed and limited that way anyway, even songs put forth by you and the almighty Blue Bear, the loss of dynamics is a non-issue for me. The real question is whether I'm good enough to do it without adding distortion or some other problem that I can't hear.
 
The Seifer said:
I'm learning to mix as well and my use of eq and compression is something that nobody comments on in the clinic, plus I'm interested to know if there is clipping or distortion that my ears can't hear yet.
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I hear the bass, I hear the bass drum, and I realize the style is such that the bass drum isn't supposed to be terribly prominant.

I saw zero clipping on the scope.... good!

From a spectrum point, the highhats and the upper harmonics of the guitar interfere a little bit... but thats just an "eq thing", and personal taste.

I have to agree with Hangdog, and crown you "Happy Compressor Guy" :D

Though, the low end doesn't sound terribly compressed, so maybe you didn't compress the entire thing, but rather use something like an aural exciter?

Curious, which is it?
 
The Seifer said:
loss of dynamics is a non-issue for me. The real question is whether I'm good enough to do it without adding distortion or some other problem that I can't hear.
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I didn't hear any obvious show-stoppers. I'd have EQ'd the guitar and the high-hats slightly differently, but like I said above thats subjective and not a criticism.

And you are correct, modern music these days are extremely compressed, and if you're mixing that piece for what I call "generic consumption" then you've done the right thing.
 
The low end thing is probably due to me using a multi-band compressor. I've used a lot of software compressors and my favorite has always been Vintage Warmer, so I use it exclusively. I understand all the parameters of a compressor and how to use them, but I don't fully understand the multi-band compression yet. I picked up on the concepts of EQ and compression pretty quick, so hopefully I'll learn how and why certain frequencies would be compressed differently.
 
Fredrick

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Jason,

What software are you using?

I was using Sonar XL Pro. I would think it wouldn't make a difference, but I'm curious why we have such radically different results.

I also used an oscilloscope being fed by my sound card in both samples, but one can't printscreen from that obviously...
 
I am using adobe audition 1.0 soon to upgrade to 1.5 in later may.
 
Wait a minute. I think frederick is reading from the wrong mp3. He's talking about the one he posted a link to, not the bubblegum mp3.

Oh well ;)

RonC
 
rpc9943 said:
Wait a minute. I think frederick is reading from the wrong mp3. He's talking about the one he posted a link to, not the bubblegum mp3.

Oh well ;)

RonC
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Don't confuse me :D

The sonar pictures I posted was of one of Jason's mp3s, though I don't remember at this point which of the three it was. It was whichever one I was commenting on all along, if that helps. The other mp3 in the sonar pictures was the one I posted... the techno "fruityloops" thing you didn't like :)

BTW, I sent you another email Ron, and after 11 hours, it came back.

Not sure what is up with email. Someone doesn't like me, or you, or both.

frederic@midimonkey.com
 
I still think he listened to bubble gum though and thats what he commented on directly after my post.
 
Pico-

See what you can do to get your monitors out to the side of your computer at head level. I think you will have a much easier time mixing. If you search the forum, there are some schematics for cheap DIY speaker stands on this site.
 
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