Pentium or AMD?

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elevate said:

It's my opinion that this strategy just doesn't work. Something is always coming out soon. AMD's new chip is actually a bit delayed and besides, their 64-bit desktop cpu will be even later. Intel also recently unveiled their new Itanium which appears to be finally living up to the hype - preliminary benchmarks show it to have insanely high floating point performance, easily besting IBM's Power 4 which has 43 times more L3 cache. And all this at a mere 1Ghz. Anyway, point is you can play the waiting game forever and when you do decide to make your purchase, you will regret it in two weeks when prices drop.
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Man... you just love contradictin' me, don't yee..? :p

I normally don't live by that motto. Prices change daily on everything from video cards to RAM to CPU's... so if you think you'll ever be happy with the "waiting" game, then you won't... but my point was that right now I'd prolly wait. Just because the current AMD CPU is maxed out, (and a new stepping of DDR is comin')... Even if DDR400 wasn't comin, I'd still wait, cause I'm not gonna buy another AMD CPU until they come oat with their new architecture, not just the same ol' thing clocked higher...

that was my point.. :p

And I know.. some of them new Intel specs are almost making me want to turn to the "dark side"... :D

WATYF
 
WATYF said:
until they come oat with their ...
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Hey WATYF, are YOU Canadian?!? I noticed you use this same spelling quite frequently so I figured it just came over from saying "out" like that!
Anyway, if I can I'd like to ask question that is related to the thread, kind of: I'm going to go AMD but I'm not real sure about this processor cooler thing. Should I purchase a processor that has a cooler with it or go with a processor only and get a separate cooler? If separate what coolers are recommended for an Athlon XP 1800?
 
I'd probably just get a separate chip and cooler. I did recently, as a matter of fact. You can find a list of AMD approved coolers at www.amd.com.
 
Clawhammer's coming out in the Fall, and another major revision by Winter.

Normally I would just buy it, but since they're coming out with these major revisions (that require new chipsets and mobos) I would wait.

Read about it in this month's PC World.

The current AMD's are saddled with the 266FSB and 256L2 cache.

faster busses and higher cache is definitely worth waiting for.

Or buy a P4 with the 533FSB and 512L2 now.
 
I bought Intel.
My friend bought AMD.
We both have a VERY similar setup, same soundcards, same programs, win2000, etc...

My computer works flawless.
His computer is constantly having problems.

-DAN
 
DanielJohn said:
I bought Intel.
My friend bought AMD.
We both have a VERY similar setup, same soundcards, same programs, win2000, etc...

My computer works flawless.
His computer is constantly having problems.

-DAN
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Fish live in water, whales live in water, whales must be fish.

I have an AMD maching at home, and an Intel at work....one of my intels at work is constantly giving me problems...dosent mean jack. Your friends machine can't be too similar, its a differant Motherboard, for one thing. Every thing from Bios settings to windows settings to the power supply in his case and the quality of the ac feed coming into his house can effect reliability, especially with 2k. My AMD works flawlessly, so do all the AMD machines that I have set up for friends, relatives, and small companies. So logically the problem is more than likely in the way your friends machine is set up, or some piece of hardware other than the cpu
 
DanielJohn said:
I bought Intel.
My friend bought AMD.
We both have a VERY similar setup, same soundcards, same programs, win2000, etc...

My computer works flawless.
His computer is constantly having problems.

-DAN
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And we all know that the only deciding factor on whether a computer works well or not is the CPU, right?

The motherboard is often more important of a choice than the CPU itself, as is the BIOS.

I have a rock solid AMD system, and I am considering a P4 as my next purchase.

My choice has absolutely zero to do with stability.
 
yeah Polaris, you are right, I have a friend that has a computer store that only sells systems with AMD and I don´t think taht all of the buyers have problems with them, otherwise he would have been out of business three years ago.....:( Any way it is true, the majority of problems are caused by the mobo and incompatibilities between other components and not just because your processor is AMD
 
SDRAM vs. DDR

I was wondering which one would be better go with? I'm probably going with an AMD system.

Also, what kind of motherboard should I get?

This computer will be dedicated to recording.
Thanks
 
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Hey people ...

No one has been giving here any information regarding to the floating point issue ...

I heard somewhere around here, that AMD seems to have better floating point accuracy or something like that,
that make it better for music sofware ...

Does anyone knows what it is all about ?

It seems that this is the main reason for choosing AMD for music purposes .
 
gilwe said:
Hey people ...

No one has been giving here any information regarding to the floating point issue ...

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Yes, the Athlon has per MHz a better Floating Point Unit (FPU) than the P4.
 
Does anyone know if you can take the orginal ram and hard disk space from one computer and put into a new computer, as long as the new computer uses the same type of ram and same type of hard disk as the old one. Sort of like salvaging for parts, since old computers have no resale value. Thanks
 
Hard disks are no problem.
memory isn't either as long as we're really talking about the same type (specified for at least the front side bus speed of the new computer and such).
 
Hhhm... I would reply to this stuff.. but all my responces have already been made... :p


heck,.. this is easy.. :D


P.S. Something that wasn't mentioned in responce to the "my friend's AMD sucks" comment.... Another deciding factor in how well a system runs is the idiot sitting behind the keyboard. I have a friend who has the exact same system as me... I know it's the exact same because I picked all the parts oat for him... and yet he has had numerous crashes and already fried one CPU. I, on the other hand, run a 24-hour Unreal game server (6 people playing on it right now), a Web server, an FTP server, and use it for my DAW, all at the same time. and have never had a problem with it...

WATYF
 
WATYF said:
I have a friend who has the exact same system as me... I know it's the exact same because I picked all the parts oat for him... and yet he has had numerous crashes and already fried one CPU. I, on the other hand, run a 24-hour Unreal game server (6 people playing on it right now), a Web server, an FTP server, and use it for my DAW, all at the same time. and have never had a problem with it...
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It could be as simple as a badly installed cpu cooler but then again... I've seen cases of people with just bad karma. :)
 
christiaan said:
It could be as simple as a badly installed cpu cooler but then again... I've seen cases of people with just bad karma. :)
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You nailed it... :p At least, that's my best guess, based on how he explained the problem. But his other problems include: Random reboots (cause: didn't have the primary mobo power connection fully seated); Fried Monitor (cause: don't even ask :p ) and others.

Needless to say, I wouldn't doubt if it's the "bad karma" thing... :D

WATYF
 
Hey EleKtriKaz

EleKtriKaz said:
Also, what kind of motherboard should I get?

This computer will be dedicated to recording.
Thanks
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There was a thread here within the last week or so that probed the question of what MOBO for an AMD processor that was to be set up for recording. It generated a lot of responses. You may want to check that out EleKtriKaz.
 
i'm cruising the net on AOL, wit IE open in win xp pro while my boy is composing a track in sonar 2. on a DUAL Athlon MP 1900+ setup with a 430 watt power supply...which strangely enuff says P4 on it...no problems at all..except when i try to over clock it
 
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