Pay $1300, or be a musician and learn to tune?

LnTh said:
lol. It's same for every forum I've been on where these guitars are bashed. All negativity is no more than speculation. Let's bash Gibson and be cool.
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This isn't a Gibson invention, actually. I'm a Strat lover and I'd still say this was a stupid waste of money for 95% of the players even if it were a "Robot Strat." And to compare this with the invention of the electric guitar is like comparing the invention of Viagra with the Polio vaccine.

But, like I've said, to each his own. If you think the $1300 is best spent on noisy tuners, then by all means, get it.

I think you're the one being "cool" here, by taking sides against the majority. You can write a punk rock song against the anti-self-tuning establishment.
 
mwthompson said:
This isn't a Gibson invention, actually. I'm a Strat lover and I'd still say this was a stupid waste of money for 95% of the players even if it were a "Robot Strat." And to compare this with the invention of the electric guitar is like comparing the invention of Viagra with the Polio vaccine.

But, like I've said, to each his own. If you think the $1300 is best spent on noisy tuners, then by all means, get it.

I think you're the one being "cool" here, by taking sides against the majority. You can write a punk rock song against the anti-self-tuning establishment.
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Hey! Quit knocking Viagra! ;^)
 
I don't accept the concept of prices set on what the market will accept.
A fair price for a fair product is as basic as a fair day's pay for a fair day's work.
Letting the market set it's own level only works when morality & ethics co-exist with supply & demand.
A company is duty bound to make a reasonable profit for it's shareholders after paying its costs but not run amock like tha banks in Australia currently ( record profits but fees MUST go up to compensate for over exposure in the NON PRIME lending etc). Sustainability for a company is usually based on return custom - now they may try to manage that with inbuilt obsolescence, in built failure etc BUT the return custom isn't too good with those things. So what do they do now? They rip you off good & proper so that, even though YOU won't come back, they've gouged you for a motza & hope the next sucker is "...just a step away, step away".
 
Well, I'm not the kind of person to say, "I told you so"

...but if I was, I'd say, "I told you so."

GP magazine reviewed the Robot and the first two Gibson sent either broke or didn't work.

Ya know, when my LP Deluxe doesn't work, it's because **I** did something to it.

Just a thought.
 
lpdeluxe said:
...but if I was, I'd say, "I told you so."

GP magazine reviewed the Robot and the first two Gibson sent either broke or didn't work.

Ya know, when my LP Deluxe doesn't work, it's because **I** did something to it.

Just a thought.
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Why am I so not surprised!
:D
 
lpdeluxe said:
...but if I was, I'd say, "I told you so."

GP magazine reviewed the Robot and the first two Gibson sent either broke or didn't work.

Ya know, when my LP Deluxe doesn't work, it's because **I** did something to it.

Just a thought.
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It sounds pretty Edsel-ish to me. ;)
 
this is not a glorified tuner but an open tuning preset machine.

a lot of tracks are written in different open tunings and also if u play slide guitar its different as well.

as far as i can tell this is an answer to what guitarists normally have to do which is lug around loads of guitars in various tunings.

its really aimed at pros and studio musicians.... ie the guys who can afford this stuff.
 
Yeah, but...

...the GP review said that it didn't reliably tune to exact pitch, and the configuration had to be changed before you could manually tune it to compensate.

I continue to be highly skeptical.
 
zazz said:
this is not a glorified tuner but an open tuning preset machine.

a lot of tracks are written in different open tunings and also if u play slide guitar its different as well.

as far as i can tell this is an answer to what guitarists normally have to do which is lug around loads of guitars in various tunings.

its really aimed at pros and studio musicians.... ie the guys who can afford this stuff.
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I see the point but there is no way that thing can change to an alternate tuning any faster than I can do it with a stage tuner.
And it is not gonna stay in calibration and reliably tune accurately for years to come. It's gonna be $1300 you spend to only have it quit working right a year or two from now. Hell, brands new ones are already breaking.
 
zazz said:
its really aimed at pros and studio musicians.... ie the guys who can afford this stuff.
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Quite the opposite. I know A LOT of studio, session and pro players in many styles, not one would be even remotely interested in a gimmick like this. They can all tune a guitar very well by hand and ear.

I've finally been able to handle one of these a couple of weeks ago. It was a piece of junk frankly wouldn't tune correctly even to a basic temprement. Next to impossible to fine tune and then wouldn't work at all. According the guy who has it in is care, Gibson can't even find a decent player to credit it, let alone endorse it.
 
Is there not a market for aggressive players that don't want to pause between every other song to tune their axe? One of the gutiarists I play with would be able to fit at least one more song per set if this thing really works. It'd be worth it just to avoid the silly dead time between songs that just kills any audience energy.

W.
 
BadBrainz said:
Is there not a market for aggressive players that don't want to pause between every other song to tune their axe? One of the gutiarists I play with would be able to fit at least one more song per set if this thing really works. It'd be worth it just to avoid the silly dead time between songs that just kills any audience energy.

W.
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It's not really about whether it WOULD be good, but that it's not working the way it needs to in order for your scenario to take effect.
 
muttley600 said:
Quite the opposite. I know A LOT of studio, session and pro players in many styles, not one would be even remotely interested in a gimmick like this.
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zazz said:
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FWIW, that's not the Gibson Robot Guitar, it's the transperfomance guitar (http://transperformance.com/index2.htm). It's been out for several years and from what I read about the Gibson gizmo, it doesn't stand up well to the transperformance unit, which I have seen in action and works very well. If you use a lot of alternative tunings it might be worth looking into. It ain't cheap either, though.
 
jimmys been into experimental tuning and anything thats heading in that direction is right up his street....of course he would want to get involved.

i myself can tune a guitar quite easily but i would love to have one that at a press of a button changed the tunings instantly....to keep changing between one and another by re-tuning would be quite time consuming.

if i had cash to burn i would get that transperformance(not sure about the gibson?) in a heartbeat.

all the guys calling this just a tuner are just a bunch of luddites.
 
zazz said:
all the guys calling this just a tuner are just a bunch of luddites.
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Well, I don't date back to Ned Ludd, but I'm not a kid either, and one thing I've learned is that gizmos don't wear well. Ever see one of those Cadillacs from the late '50s that had the air-bag suspension that automatically adjusted the ride height to the load?

They are easy to spot because they sit lower than other cars -- due to the (predictable) fact that the air bags failed and the cars are now resting on their axles.

But all those guys who had to have the latest automotive bling -- WOW! Until buyer's remorse set in after about 6 months, of course.

If it's unnecessary, it's not a good buy. The Robot is a pricey toy. For the same money I could get several guitars that actually work...and, I'm a musician, not a mechanic.
 
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