OT: Why wan't you tell me the answer?

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Hey I'm new here can you guys give me some beats for free so as I can rap over them. And hurry up will ya!
 
moresound said:
Hey I'm new here can you guys give me some beats for free so as I can rap over them. And hurry up will ya!
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Walk through South Kilburn at night and flash your wallet. You'll get free beats ! Quickly too !!
 
James K said:
those guys always annoyed me when I was a kid. I learnt on fairly cheap guitars (I had an Encore then a yamaha pacifica) and a strat always seemed like a magical object to me; something that you dreamed to own one day. When I saw kids that were bought an american strat to learn on, it really annoyed me. Oh well, I've got one now :)
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Dude that's me! I had a Pacifica too. But for me it was the $2k Gibson LPs that the kids were getting that bugged me. And the thing is they only got it because they heard somewhere that a lot of famous people play one or something, not because they prefer it's sound. Oh man. Another interesting thing. I ended up getting a strat as well, but after 6 months of playing I decided to revert back to my Pacifica! Its Yamaha Pacifica all the way for me, I LOVE that guitar.
 
Half the problem is that the OP's never give us enough information to diagnose the problem. The other half is that we don't have the gear they have so it's impossible to give them the answer as we have no clue if the gear is any good or how it works.
 
You guys are funny, I'll be more carefull the next time I have a question. Glad I read this post. As always, thank you for the info.
 
arcadeko said:
You may be a lover but you aint no dancer...
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Wah wah wah wah, look out now !!

moresound said:
Must be like the Bronx!
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During the summer of either '97 or '98, I was doing deliveries to this place that had this Afro~American lady working on the reception that summer, kind of a rarity in London in those days. She was a New Yorker and I remember talking with her about a then current story in the papers that London was now viewed as more dangerous than New York in terms of violent crime. I was actually quite surprized because all through my life up to that point, it was places like New York and Detroit that had the heavy murder/robbery reputation. London was soft in comparison. Even now, some people think it's like the Wild west here. I guess one is affected by what one experiences or what people that you know have experienced.
 
grimtraveller said:
I remember talking with her about a then current story in the papers that London was now viewed as more dangerous than New York in terms of violent crime. I was actually quite surprized because all through my life up to that point, it was places like New York and Detroit that had the heavy murder/robbery reputation. London was soft in comparison. Even now, some people think it's like the Wild west here.
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Football Hooligans and Skinheads?! - I lived in Detroit for a while in the 80's and it's actually worse then people make it out to be :eek:
 
James K said:
I think a lot of people don't realise just how much stuff there is to know. I don't think I've ever been a newbie in that way as I took a funny route into recording. I've been basically obsessed with it since i was about 8. I read about it all the time, I read all the books on recording I could find and talked to everyone I knew who had any experience. When I got the internet I spent hours on end looking up stuff about recording and reading equipment manuals. By the age of about 14 I knew quite a lot about recording. I used to design home studio setups when I was bored at school and plan out my ideal rig. The thing was, I never had any recording equipment at all. I got a zoom MRS-4 4 track when I was about 11 but I didn't get a proper setup until I was 17 (fostex R8, Fostex 812 mixer, compressors and multi fx). When I actually got it, I knew exactly how to set up and use it all. i was able to dive straight in and use it and experiment with stuff. It's been the same every time I've bought a new piece of gear. I've researched everything about it and read the manual online before I've even got it. That way I can just use it straight away. I occasionally think when people ask 'newbie' questions that it should be obvious but then I realise that there's a lot of stuff you need to know and that I've been obsessively reading about it for the past 12 years. I suppose it was quite a good, albeit strange way to get into recording. I wonder if anyone else has done the same; skipped being a newbie by studying everything in detail before you own it.

Anyone?
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I'm a lot the same way now. I have some gear. I love it! But I just don't have the time or space right now to do it right. So I read all I can. I watch videos. I do everything I can to stay connected to recording. Someday it will pay off. ... I hope.

BentRabbit said:
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HR SUPPORT: "Hi, how can I help you?"

NEWBEE: "whenever I try i cant get it to say what it soppose too unLess no one else has it first then theres a few seconds before we loose it again."

HR SUPPORT: :confused:
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Those, almost more than anything else, drive me absolutely ape shit! At least type something in that approximates English!!!

grimtraveller said:
In some ways though, by buying so deeply into the technological revolution and 'trying to make life better', I can't help feeling we've contributed towards this attitude. For example, if someone posts a question here about possible ways of recording the sound of rain or a fire engine or something that's deemed to be wanky, analog and 'old school' or strictly passe, they'll often be mocked and told about samples or how in this day and age there's no reason to go to all the trouble of doing X when Y is around. That unwittingly fosters and perpetuates the "I want it quick and NOW!!" mentality. It's by no means the cause of it. But it subliminally perpetuates it and we end up chasing tails and going round and round and nowhere.
I'm in broad agreement with the sentiments expressed thus far {whether we like it or not, many young people over the last 25 years simply don't want to wait for anything, let alone take time out to learn things that may take a while} and we seem to go through these gluts in the newbie section where whole clods of newcomers seem to post very similar queries all at once. It's just that I see the possibilities of the other side too. I think it's a reflection of many societies in the West.
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GRIM FTW!!!


I think it's just a symptom of our society. Pop "hits" are cranked out by committee daily. No one really has to try any more. So why should kids who want to "get into music?" The people who do work hard and put effort into their craft are often criticized as being "elitist" or "trendy hipster indie shit" or whatever else. It's kind of a shame.

To an extent though, it's hard to blame the newbs. They are fed this "produce CD quality recordings from your bedroom" line of marketing and if that's their intro to it all, then why wouldn't they think that way? Anyway. It's all good for a laugh at any rate.
 
grimtraveller said:
Wah wah wah wah, look out now !!

During the summer of either '97 or '98, I was doing deliveries to this place that had this Afro~American lady working on the reception that summer, kind of a rarity in London in those days. She was a New Yorker and I remember talking with her about a then current story in the papers that London was now viewed as more dangerous than New York in terms of violent crime. I was actually quite surprized because all through my life up to that point, it was places like New York and Detroit that had the heavy murder/robbery reputation. London was soft in comparison. Even now, some people think it's like the Wild west here. I guess one is affected by what one experiences or what people that you know have experienced.
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That's all I need is a few dozen lads coming at me with ballpeen hammers and I would be throwing my wallet at them!

Why don't they just use guns and knifes like the US ~ that is just not right.
But with a gun and knife it can get confusing ..... not knowing to either cut across the lawn or shot up the alley!
 
grimtraveller said:
Perhaps the awkward, lazy newbies should be sent to record there. :D
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There are plenty of studios!

I try to help out the noobs quite a bit - the vague questions can get a bit irritating... But it is also one of the most active forums so it gives me something to do. And there is nothing like getting grey rep! =/
 
I'm willing to help with even really silly questions--but give up if somebody isn't prepared to listen and try. As soon as the "don't get technical, just answer my question" or "I don't care if you say I need an interface...I can't afford to spend money so just tell me how to plug my condenser mic into my laptop" sort of attitude starts, I tend to bow out.
 
nate_dennis said:
I think it's just a symptom of our society. Pop "hits" are cranked out by committee daily. No one really has to try any more. So why should kids who want to "get into music?" The people who do work hard and put effort into their craft are often criticized as being "elitist" or "trendy hipster indie shit" or whatever else. It's kind of a shame.
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I think this is assumption rather than truth. TMZ will show you the dumb, crazy, ostentatious, party stuff that "stars" get up to but they don't bother with the 3 hours of vocal/music training/practice followed by dance/choreography for a couple of hours every day or whatever it may be because that wouldn't make for shocking, rating worthy TV but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. We're just led to assume that the crazy party stuff is all that happens because that's all that the one eyed Oracle in the corner allows us to see.
I do think that image has become far more important as the exposure to visual media increases exponentially and as a result someone like Bob Dylan would have a much harder time starting out today if he wanted to not just write songs for others to perform but to be a performer himself because if you look at him honestly, he has a face like a stegosauruses bottom, a whiny, pitchy voice and is not particularly entertaining to watch. But he can write some cracking material.


nate_dennis said:
To an extent though, it's hard to blame the newbs. They are fed this "produce CD quality recordings from your bedroom" line of marketing and if that's their intro to it all, then why wouldn't they think that way? Anyway. It's all good for a laugh at any rate.
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Unfortunately this is also symptomatic of a broader trend:
Get slim without exercise or diet, just pop this pill
Teach your kids to read by plopping them down in front of this DVD rather than reading with them, who has time for that!
and so on
always followed by the tag line: "get the ________ YOU DESERVE" never that you have earned!

I'll go and get my fiddle so I'm ready to watch when it starts to burn
 
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