ocenaudio creating a 22 min recording while im leaving it on for 2 hours...

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it is still on when i arrive with those twenty some recording.
the problem with audacity is that it it is so very slow to save files and scroll the file it is a pain . the ocenaudio is very quick . but indeed there is no manual . I watched everything on youtube on ocenaudio and nothing talks about a twenty minute stop recording...
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You say it's "slow". How slow are we talking? 15 seconds, 30 seconds? If Audacity is slow to save the file, it's likely because it's a VERY BIG file. Are you using an SSD or a spinning hard drive? A hard drive will be much slower to save the file, but simply saving a file that is several hours long takes a bit of time. If you convert it to MP3 to save space, that takes additional time, as the program now has to process the audio through a compression algorithm.

Scrolling can be sped up in Audacity by simply changing the zoom which allows the cursor to move further in a shorter time. If you're looking for peaks along a relatively quiet track, they should stand out. You can then simply click on those peak area and zoom back in.

Audacity has been around for many years, and there's a reason it's widely used.. It's reliable. I would try that again. If it takes time to save, then all I can say is have patience, young fellow! Good things come to those who wait.
 
Something that might be an issue is the cache location that Ocenaudio uses. For grins, I installed the program and one thing I noticed is that it does not properly report the available space. Here is what I saw. Notice that my laptop shows 104GB of free space on C: and 141GB on the D: drive. When Ocenaudio setup it's cache, it chose C: drive and only shows 4.77GB, not the full 104GB of space. If you were to use a drive that had 100.5GB, then the cache would apparently only see 0.5GB of space.

Check your cache setting (under the HELP tab). What does it say for available space?
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Something that might be an issue is the cache location that Ocenaudio uses. For grins, I installed the program and one thing I noticed is that it does not properly report the available space. Here is what I saw. Notice that my laptop shows 104GB of free space on C: and 141GB on the D: drive. When Ocenaudio setup it's cache, it chose C: drive and only shows 4.77GB, not the full 104GB of space. If you were to use a drive that had 100.5GB, then the cache would apparently only see 0.5GB of space.

Check your cache setting (under the HELP tab). What does it say for available space?
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HI in the help tab of ocenaudio i dont have this info . are you talking about another help tab? the laptop has win7
 
This is in the most current version 3.14.8. I don't know if this is the problem, just something that I found that seems wrong.


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HI I see this option you show on my main desktop pc that i can not use for recording . too far way .
But the laptop has no x64 version it is an older version it only says about in the help tab
version 2.0 16 build 7900

today the laptop 1 also produces a 25m 22 s recording instead of 1hour 20. ..

it might be more related to the laptop it self because
i revived an even older laptop2(very noisy) with same version of system (version 2.0 16 build 7900) but laptop 2, but the laptop 2 has never done the error even though he is older . ... Puzzeling..
 
I'm afraid I can't make any more suggestion, other than to upgrade all of your laptops to the latest version. It's free so why stay with an outdated version?
 
TalismanRich said:
I'm afraid I can't make any more suggestion, other than to upgrade all of your laptops to the latest version. It's free so why stay with an outdated version?
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From my memory i took the latest version for non x64. It could be a question of cash memory allowed to the program or maybe mic sensitivity?
 
Mic sensitivity would have no bearing on the program or recording time.

I repeat... try Audacity instead. That would tell you if Ocenaudio is the problem. If Audacity bombs, then you probably have a computer issue. maybe hardware, maybe settings. There's no way I can tell from here.
 
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Mic sensitivity would have no bearing on the program or recording time.

I repeat... try Audacity instead. That would tell you if Ocenaudio is the problem. If Audacity bombs, then you probably have a computer issue. maybe hardware, maybe settings. There's no way I can tell from here.
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Hi I ear your proposition for audacity. I was using it before but the time it took to save transport reopen and srcoll throuht the long recording was way too long . that is why i moved with ocen audio which is much more rapid in all those. BUT it gives me . 25 min recording from time to time which i try to solve atm...It was a pain with audacity. I dont know if it is because it only uses 1 core ? Anyway, there must me a way to have my more recent laptot1 to record everything just as my old noisy laptop 2 can do. I am searching for the solution because Ocenaudio fits my need expect for the part that i closes at 25 minutes..
 
Once you save the file from Audacity, you can load it into Ocenaudio to scroll through it. You just need to confirm if it's a program problem or a hardware/setting problem.
 
Rich hit it here. You have GOT to eliminate the computer, so do the recording on audacity. Forget even liking it - that's not the point. It will tell you if Ocenaudio is the problem or your computer. Only when you have eliminated the computer, can you move forward. My guess is that it the computer. If Ocenaudio has a long recording bug, people would have noticed - this to me tips the scales. Your old computer is probably running on cache memory a lot while it shuffles the audio around, and sometimes, it falls over. Audacity will confirm this.
 


Hope that link works. If so it might shed some light on how a silly little uniquely British comedy programme spawned a word that came to be known world wide for useless, often malevolent email posting.

Yes, give Audacity a crack, can't say I have ever noticed it being slower in operation from other DAWs? I have over the years used Cubase, Adobe Audition 1.5, Cakewalk/Sonar, Reaper (give that a shot!) but mainly various marks of MAGIX Samplitude, presently on Pro X 6. All seem equal in terms of file processing speed. My AMD 3.5G 6 core naturally zaps along a bit faster than my elderly g6 HP lappy!

N.B. Some DAWs (Sam is one) allow you to set the maximum record time. Might be worth checking that is not a hidden default?

Dave.
 
I downloaded and installed ocenaudio and, as per OP tried it on my i3 HP W7 laptop. It installed but would not run , note the "dll" error.

It did run on this i7 w10 Lenovo but gave that "AVX" error. I shall investigate that since atmo not a SOOOBIE!

The DAW is VERY similar to Audacity in some ways. I wonder if saving "raw" would in fact be the same file format AS Audacity? Might try but life's too short! It SAYS it accepts ASIO drivers but would not find my MOTU M4. Fortunately that is not fussy and ran fine with WASAPI.

Only a very cursory glance but some things might be useful such as the RTA IF you can make it big enough for my aged mince! Might be fixable but the whole 'tone' of the app is "washed out" and hard to read. Why can't they be all bright eye'd and busy tailed like Cakewalk?

It comes to mind that the AVX issue might cause the software to be unstable and thus chuck the progress out randomly?

It appears "AVX" is an audio hard and software system peculiar to Sennheiser microphones. WTF that has to do with the normal operation of a DAW I cannot fathom?

Dave.
 

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cooperation said:
From my memory i took the latest version for non x64. It could be a question of cash memory allowed to the program or maybe mic sensitivity?
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What is the microphone/preamp/interface you are using? Or are you trying to record via the laptop’s built-in microphone?

And, I think asked before but I did not see an answer - what is the file format you are trying to record with? And, what is the size of the ~22 minute file?

Your pursuit of a solution using obscure software, and an obsolete version, at that, on an old computer with unsupported operating system is an exercise in futility, I suspect. Nobody can recreate what you are doing.

Even if Audacity is slow, you would likely have succeeded in getting the recording. If Audacity fails, then it’s the computer or something else running on the computer, perhaps. Though, strictly my POV, this is off in “doing the same thing and expecting a different result” land.
 
TalismanRich said:
I'm afraid I can't make any more suggestion, other than to upgrade all of your laptops to the latest version. It's free so why stay with an outdated version?
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Hi from what i can see the only version of 32 bit is the one I have , older version. all the more recent one are for 64 bit and from what i know 64 bit program cannot work on 32 bit.
 
keith.rogers said:
What is the microphone/preamp/interface you are using? Or are you trying to record via the laptop’s built-in microphone?

And, I think asked before but I did not see an answer - what is the file format you are trying to record with? And, what is the size of the ~22 minute file?

Your pursuit of a solution using obscure software, and an obsolete version, at that, on an old computer with unsupported operating system is an exercise in futility, I suspect. Nobody can recreate what you are doing.

Even if Audacity is slow, you would likely have succeeded in getting the recording. If Audacity fails, then it’s the computer or something else running on the computer, perhaps. Though, strictly my POV, this is off in “doing the same thing and expecting a different result” land.
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hi , I am recording with the mic from the laptop. Sometimes it does 2h recording ok sometimes it stops at 25 min . I dont know why
 
I was using audacity before but it was too slow to save open and scrool . I have been suggested to use ocenaudio since it was operating faster. with audacity the recording was not stopping by itself.
 
Please - don't ask for advice and then just ignore it.
Audacity may well not be to your liking but it will prove where the fault is. If audacity records for 2 hours, and is crazily slow, it still means your computer and ocenaudio are not happy. Have you tried windows built in audio recorder, or anything else, so many can record audio, so for the moment dump ocenaudio and see if your computer can cope. Probably, it cannot.
 
cooperation said:
I was using audacity before but it was too slow to save open and scrool . I have been suggested to use ocenaudio since it was operating faster. with audacity the recording was not stopping by itself.
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Then I say again..... RECORD IT IN AUDACITY. If you don't have the patience to wait the 30 seconds that it takes to save the wave file to your hard drive, then go grab a couple of cookies and a coke while the computer does it's work. Come back after it's finished.

THEN LOAD THE FILE INTO OCENAUDIO and do your scrolling and stuff.

Stop making excuses on why you have to use a program that doesn't work because you don't want to lose a minute of your life! We've colletively spent several hours trying to help you. You've spent far more time trying to figure out why the program is broken that it would take to save 50 2 hour files.

One last thing. I just tested Ocen vs Audacity 2.1 on a 2011 I3 machine using a 2 hour 38 minute file. OA took 37 seconds to load. Audacity too 17 seconds to load. Exporting the wave, OA took 58 seconds to save vs Audacity taking 1:42 to save. I really don't see an issue.

It's time to move on.
 
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Is it possible, now that we know that he's using the built--in mic on his laptop, that it's perhaps a "voice/noiselevel" activation situation requiring a threshold adjustment to initiate the "recording" process on his laptop?
A dog not whimpering loudly enough to activate the recorder, but a barking dog crosses the threshold and the laptop records?
I'd like to hear what sounds he has been capable of recording recently.

Somewhere, out there, there's a simple solution.
 
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