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jeff0633
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Blue Bear Sound said:
I agree totally. If you didn't listen to the songs in my first post, then you should. In my case, the song done on the Behringer stuff, in a decent room, is way better than the song done on a Great River in a shitty room. My entire purpose here was to show that in actuality, a good room will probably make a much bigger difference when upgrading compared to upgrading from a Mackie pre to a Great River. Of course, the Great River would have improved the song done in the decent room even more, but the change would not be as dramatic as the difference between a decent room, and a shitty one with reflections going everywhere, and muddy bass frequencies. The post was clear, and really, no one has said anything that I disagree with as far as the room and pres. The only thing I have disagreed with is that there is some moral obligation not to buy Behringer products that are being legally sold in my country, and I have disagreed with the notion that it is impossible to make a good recording with Behringer equipment. Take a UB series Mixer, with a behringer B-2 condenser, with a Behringer new model Composer, with a New model Virtualizer, into a fine, state of the art recording room, and a recording can be made that would absolutely please just about any home-recordist out there that is trying to record in their bedroom. That's my point, and I stand buy it. I think much of the problem here is that many of the posters here are not home-recordist, like the forum was originally about, and has turned in to the semi-pro recordist with thousands of dollars to spend. The point I am making here is that these kind of guys already expect you to be recording in a well tuned recording space. many of them might be so used to having agreat space for so long that it doesn't even pop into their minds anymore when they are giving a true home-recordist advice. I would think that one of the first questions a pro would ask a newbie home recordist when he says his recording don't sound "Pro" is, "hey, what kind of space are you recording in"? If I tell you to go out and spend a grand on a Mic pre, but yet you are sitting in a fucking mobile home with traffic outside, no sound absorption on your walls, no bass traps and open corners on all four walls, you aren't going to find that a thousand dollar pre is going to give you much satisfaction. That is what I was trying to point out. Higher is this thread, someone made a reply that the Spirit boards were good, and that if I had a thousand to 2 thousand for a mid-level project studio. I would think that since the name of this chat board has the words home recording in them, most of the folks here would like to spend 300 on a mixer, not two grand. These people need to know that yes, they can make recordings that would absolutely thrill 95 percent of every bedroom-recordist out there, and that they can use a Behringer preamp, with a Behringer composer, and a Behringer B-2 condenser, with a Behringer effects. But if they are recording in a shitty room, then spending a grand on a mixer or two channel pre is going to do very little for them, until they take care of the recording environment they are in first. I think the two songs that I gave links to show this quite clear. I was simply trying to help keep some of the newbie home-recordist out there from burying themselves in debt by buying a pre that cost a grand, and then finding out that they are still unsatisfied by what they are recording. This happened to me, and I still am paying for the great River, even though I sold it and bought a Peavey VMP2 with the money. I am still unsatisfied with my recordings, and I can't afford to spend two grand now on good 3 and 4 inch studio foam, with really nice bass traps and cieling treatments. I wish I would have had someone tell me to do that first, instead of telling me to upgrade my Behringer preamps up to a Great river. had they, I would probably have a great recording space right now, and maybe be ready to invest in an RNP. So, really, I don't even disagree with you in any way.
Have a good one.
Jeff
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