No hate music policy?

[crosstudio]

willovercome:
what about gay or lesbian lyrics? what about communist lyrics? what if someone wanted to come into your studio and do a reading of the qur'an? should your conscience prevent that too?

chessrock:
hip-hop lyrics are also very detached from reality. sure there are some gang-bangers, some thugs, some actual former drug dealers in hip-hop. some of them are CEO's of record companies. but most of what you hear is pure fantasy.

if all of these rap dudes were really moving bricks, keys, and g-packs every person in america would be a crack addict. they can't all be pushing that kind of weight. there's not enough people to buy it all.

every rapper is a former thugged out drug dealer who 'held his block down'. but none of them ever did any time and you've never heard of anyone coming forward and saying that this rapper, or that rapper had allegedly killed one of their family members.

when biggie got shot who in his crew shot back? when tupac got shot (the first and second time) who shot back? no one. don't sound like thugs to me.

there are two rappers in jail right now for actual thug related actions. Shine and C-Murder. both of them are idiots who did their dirt in front of hundreds of people in the middle of a club.

 

[Bass Master "K"]

TapeOp magazine had a little thing on this as well, only it was a piece on deathmetal and how the engineer didn't want to do it because he was tired of it and just didn't agree with it anymore.

I think that there is nothing wrong with passing on a client who has a project you just have no interest in doing. I suppose how desperate you are for the money can affect things, but even there, sometimes there are things that no amount of money can make you do. When my band was recording in one of the larger studios here in Portland, we got to be buddies with the engineers and they told a story or two about clients they wouldn't take because they could tell the project was going to be trouble from the start. It wasn't related to the music itself but more the clients, but I think it's a similar arguement.

I would also look at what the outcome is going to bring you as a studio owner. If you record it and your heart isn't in it and you zombie through it not paying much attention to what your doing and it sounds bad, it is bad word of mouth for the studio. With hip hop/rap being so popular this could end up being bad word of mouth to other musicians that aren't even in the same genre as this guy. This is really bad because it could cost you future business that you would want. On the other hand, if you do a kick ass job on it and it sounds sweet, you may have a stream of rap hopefuls that all want you to do their project about shooting up the town and cappin' asses, which you don't want either. This would lead me to pass it on...

 

[CarcPazu]

Guns

I think yo shudd do it, cuz if tha yo owns guns, he my pop a cap in yo ass
;-)

aahigh?


Seriously, if you care about that, don't ever record brutal death metal band it can be a lot more explicit...

 

[Kevin Deschwazi]

I think yo shudd do it, cuz if tha yo owns guns, he my pop a cap in yo ass
;-)

aahigh?


Seriously, if you care about that, don't ever record brutal death metal band it can be a lot more explicit...

I'm sure Chessrock is a very good engineer but I don't think they're going to have waited 2 and a half years for a decision.

So Chessrock did you do it in the end?

 

[chessrock]

Yea, I'm still recording the thugs.

Screw it ... it's money.

 

[acorec]

Yea, I'm still recording the thugs.

Screw it ... it's money.

Hehe. You sound like my sister. Before she graduated law school, she was so compassionate about "saving" all the innocent people that were getting "screwed" by the courts.


FFwd to today:
She is a judge and says "eeh, 99.9% of people that go to trial are probably guilty"

20 years in law, 12 as a judge will surely change one's mind.

 

[CarcPazu]

Money

hehe then Money always win!

BTW I got some serial rapist friends who need an album badly, that means I can send them to you? hehe Just kidding ;-)

 

[distortedrumble]

i would record rappers talking about shooting each other.....i dont do it in my music. i would draw the line at black people talking about kill whitie or white people talking about poppin a "nigga". still on the fence about violence against homosexuals....that may be on a case by case basis...not that i condone it or anything....i just dont know enough gay people to take it personally

 

[chessrock]

I just focus on the sonics ... the sound quality, clarity, and impact of the mix.

Let 'em sing or rap about whatever they want. Any good I might do for society by refusing to record them ... isn't going to help me pay my phone or electric bill.

 

[distortedrumble]

very true....have studios been sued by victims families for violence and stuff in songs? this kinda got me thinking about the people that sue gun manufacturers for contributing in the deaths of people.

 

[noisedude]

To be fair, they're better off wasting their hard-stolen cash recording crap tracks in your studio than they are out on the street trying to keep it real by getting caps popped in dey asses all day long, dawg.

Be scared the first time they start rhyming about their whiteboy engineer though ...

 

[distortedrumble]

LOL!!!....yeah thats a deal breaker

 

[grn]

to them it is art and it will also sell. if you have a bad feeling about it just don't do it though (like with any project) - I'd probably do it. it's most likely entertainment and they're not trying to spread hate as some ulterior motive. I don't really see it as an ethics thing either... making people feel uncomfortable in rap is sometimes part of its appeal.

 

[distortedrumble]

the only song i ever rapped about killing a guy, i kinda felt bad about it afterwards, i talked about killing him and his and and his kids.....that song will never run on a cd and even though i would probably stand up and cheer if he was killed one day, i wont be the one to do it. as for his wife and kids....I dont care much if they live or die....i hope his kids dont turn out as bad as he is but ya never know. fantasy murder rapping..yup....a map for actually doing it...nah.

 

[Fishybob]

I agree... Just make sure you decline via phone... You don't want him to shoot your ass!

 

[Tim Brown]

Im tired of people rapping about guns. Stupid fucks.

Me too! That's why I'm trying to write some Rap music about Bazookas and Tanks!

 

[chessrock]

So what's up with reviving a thread that's like 12 years old, anyway?


I am, right now as we speak, busy working on a rap song about pea shooters.


You mess with me ...

Yo head be capped with a pea

(cue sample: splat! splat! )

 

[Tim Brown]

It's the senseless "I'm packin' heat and 'yall better believe I'll blow 'ya head off if you be messin' wit me" crap I just don't want to have anything to do with.

Plus, you have to keep in mind that they might really be packing heat, and willing to blow ya' head off!

 

[fraserhutch]

Declining work because it violates your principles is not censorship - you are not telling them what they can and cannot record.

 

[CarcPazu]

My fault

So what's up with reviving a thread that's like 12 years old, anyway?

ahaha, it'S my fault!
I'm new on this board, so I'm trying to read the old stuff the most I can, so if someone scream "THIS CRAP BEEN DISCUSSED, SEARCH ON THE SITE NEWBIE ASSOLE" then I can always reply "I'VE DONE THE BEST I COULD YOU PRICK" hehehe

The problem is, it's very tempting to answer back sometimes, and I answer not really looking at the year it's been posted.

Anyway, who could be against recycling?