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I left a question at the newbie sight but I want to ask it a different way for some more feedback. If you had sit down with two other people and interview them and then take that audio and send it to your computer, edit and burn to a CD with CD quality what equipment would you use? Keep in mind that you would want this to happen as easily as possible with little frills. I do however want to use good equipment but I just don't know how to use any of it yet so it has to be simple. I do want to use three seperate mics which brings up the confusion of multiple tracks. I guess I should throw in the fact that I do have a Shure M267 4 channel mixer I would like to use. One last thing, would you buy equipment to try to get three seperate tracks in the computer for editing or is it not worth the expense to do so because it just vocals (not singing). Thanks for helping!
 
The Sure has only one output correct?
It is also XLR?
You will need to get an adapter or adapters to convert the XLR out to an unbalanced 1/8" male mono plug. Then most likely you will need an adapter to convert the mono plug to a stereo 1/8" plug. This will then be plugged into the Line in of the computer.
Then with whatever recording software you use ... you will record one stereo track at 16 bits and a sampling rate of 44.1kHz. The resulting wave file can then be put straight to CD.
Just be sure to set the mic levels on the mixer to be of equal volume.
 
Scratch the adapters .... I forgot, the Extigy has XLR inputs. Though I think these may be on pre amps so be careful not to have the levels to high coming out of the Sure and monitor the level going into your recording software.
 
What type of recorder would you use knowing I had the Extigy and the Shure mixer? I'm doing this away from the computer so It won't be recorded directly to the computer. And the track delema. The Extigy only sends one to the computer (doesn't it) and does that matter? Can I still edit all three voices if there's only one track? Thanks for taking the time....
 
you need a multi track soundcard

get you a delta 44. you can record 4 tracks at once. i don't know what kind of software you are using, but i use cakewalk sonar for muti track recording.
all the tracks will be seperated so you could mix each mic line seperate. the 44 is a pci slot sound card with a breakout box with 4ins and 4outs. this would help you with your tracking. the sonar has the option to export all of your mixed tracks into stereo tracks. I don't know if this helps, but good luck!!
 
Ricoinats said:
I left a question at the newbie sight but I want to ask it a different way for some more feedback. If you had sit down with two other people and interview them and then take that audio and send it to your computer, edit and burn to a CD with CD quality what equipment would you use? Keep in mind that you would want this to happen as easily as possible with little frills. I do however want to use good equipment but I just don't know how to use any of it yet so it has to be simple. I do want to use three seperate mics which brings up the confusion of multiple tracks. I guess I should throw in the fact that I do have a Shure M267 4 channel mixer I would like to use. One last thing, would you buy equipment to try to get three seperate tracks in the computer for editing or is it not worth the expense to do so because it just vocals (not singing). Thanks for helping!

just curious, what city do you live in?

In NY there are these little setups called "story tellers" where it's a small booth set up with pro mics and equipment where you can interview someone and it will be professionally produced and the final product is delivered to you.
 
bsanfordnyc said:
just curious, what city do you live in?

In NY there are these little setups called "story tellers" where it's a small booth set up with pro mics and equipment where you can interview someone and it will be professionally produced and the final product is delivered to you.

That's really cool. I've never even heard of that before.
 
Unfortunately I don't know anything about the sure mixer you have, other than doing a search for it via Google and it appears as though it is a mono mixer. If you have an understanding of the function of a mixer then I may not need to state it .... but, I will anyway.
A mixer quite basically does what it's name states. It mixes. It mixes a certain number of inputs to an output/outputs. This is the most basic of what would be a mixer. There are mixers that are of greater complexity in their ability to route the inputs to a number of different outputs.
A mono mixer knows no right or left as what is found with a stereo mixer. A basic mono mixer takes however many inputs there are on the unit and sums them all together to one output.
A basic stereo mixer on the other hand has the ability to take an input and split it to two outputs normally considered left and right. This holds true for a multiple input stereo mixer in that all of the inputs are summed to two outputs. The stereo mixer will allow control of how the individual inputs are split to the stereo (two) outputs via a pan knob. Allowing for an equal amount of the signal to be sent to both outputs or for the signal to be sent more to one than the other or even to just one output. Hence the terminology of panning left, right or center (both outputs). Both stereo and mono mixers allow an adjustment, via knobs or faders, of how much of the input will go to the output or outputs (gain control). Basically .... a volume control.
The most common method of recording would be with stereo equipment.
The confusion you are getting as far as track and inputs is common. In the type of recording most of us do (multitracking) .... each input is routed to it's own track, or "file" if you will. Giving us the ability to alter each individual track via some form of sound shaping (effects). Though since you are just wanting to record spoken word, I see no real need for multitracking.
What I would suggest for equipment that you should consider are a Sony Minidisk Recorder along with your mixer and this cable and adapter plus this cable to connect your mixer to the minidisk's recording input. Basically those two cables and the adapter will take the XLR output of your mixer and split it off to a stereo jack. Which will give you playback on both right and left side.
Then another cable to connect the minidisk to the computers line in port on the soundcard for getting the recording into the computer via the software you plan to use to capture the recording and edit as you see fit. Then finally burn to CD.
What you are trying to achieve is rather simple, but explaining it via type is in a way hard. The ability to simply show you would be far easier.

I hope this all helps some.

-Ken
 
Perfect. Looks like I'm wearing out my welcome. I'll try to figure things out with all your help. Thanks EVERYONE.
 
CrankZ1. I just read your post a few times (about the amount of times I ask the same question :rolleyes: ) and if I follow that to the tee I will have a stereo recording to the computer, right? Thanks for putting so much into your explanation, you're all right!
 
Well .... Yes, you will have the recording on both left and right sides. It won't give a true stereo image. For example person with mic 1 may physically be on the right side of persons with mic 2 and 3 and mic 3 may physically be on the left side of mic 2, putting person with mic 2 somewhere in the middle. With the setup I posted ... regardless of where each person is physically positioned, they will be heard equally on both left and right sides. This is due to the fact of your mixer being mono (only one output). The only way to achieve true stereo separation would be with the use of a different stereo mixer and panning each mic respectively to their physical placement. The purpose of the recommended cables and adapter is to effectively split the one output in two and also convert the plug type to a usable type for the stereo input of the minidisk or even to go straight into the soundcard of the computer (1/8" stereo plug).
I don't have nor have I seen an Extigy other than from viewing one online, but from what I gather the Extigy is an external soundcard that hooks to the computer via USB. It serves no function at all unless connected to a computer. The extent of it's portability is limited to the fact that it can be transported for use between different computers. It can do nothing as a stand-alone unit. Hence my recommendation of the minidisk for a portable recording device as opposed to having the computer present for the interviews. Also the Extigy, that I looked at, didn't have any XLR inputs. What I saw where 1/8" stereo jacks and digital optical jacks, thus the cabling I suggested is to get the mixers output converted to 1/8" stereo. The minidisk's input and output are also 1/8" stereo.
I hope I have answered your question, albeit long windedly, in regard to achieving the recording in stereo. In essence what you will end up with is everything coming out of the left and right speakers equally.

-Ken
 
Thanks again Crankz1! I think I' m going to buy the exact set-up you suggested. I had initially purchased a Sony DAT machine thinking that this would record the best sound. I'm assuming that the minidisk will produce CD quality output as well? And maybe recording spoken word doesn't require such a fancy DAT recording device anyway (I'm kinda hoping you'll agree).
 
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