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Hey everybody, I got some money coming in and i'm about start my studio. I was wondering could you guys review my setup, or point out any gear that wouldn't be worth picking up. I'm kind of short on cash and don't want to waste any money.

For vocals:

Soundcard: Presonus firepod wit cubase http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Firepod/
preamp: aphex 230 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/230/
mic: Rode nt2a http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NT2A/

For beats:

Reason 2.5
korg microKontrol http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/microKONTROL/

Plugins:

Antares Tube http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TubeNative/
Bias sound soap http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SoundSoap/
 
Yeah man, looks good. Quick question though... The firebod comes with preamps all ready, so why grab the "230"? I guess it does have a lot of features that you could use. One thing though... Why the microKontrol? For about the same money (maybe a bit more) you could grab the akai MPD16 (much better pads) and a 49 key midi controller. I personally just think it's better bang for the buck.

One thing you may want to add to your list is Recycle (for reason) so you can take loops and covert them into the .rex file format for the Dr. Rex player in reason. It's pretty damn good stuff.

Keep in mind that if you're going to be producing hiip hop and such, you should probably try to grab a monitoring system that has a sub. I've produced beats for a while now and my biggest beef when I started out was that I couldn't get the low end right.

Ah yes, and one more thing... Keep in mind that Reason 3.0 is out.
 
Echelon said:
The firebod comes with preamps all ready, so why grab the "230"?
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I was gonna ask the same thing. You might as well wait and see if you think you really need it after you track with the Firepod. And that money will go a long way toward a good set of monitors.
 
This was a mock list for a future studio that I managed to share my input on. I copied and pasted it from an excel sheet, which explains the horrible nature of this post, but if you can sorta depict the items, it might help you with some ideas.


The Cave
Dynamics & Signal Processing
Item Description Seller Price Quantity Total
TC Electronic D-Two Digital Delay zZounds.com $499.95 1 $499.95 x
Kurzewell KSP8 Multi-FX Delay Processing zZounds.com $2,299.00 2 $4,598.00 x
Kurzewell Rumour KDFX Reverb Processing zZounds.com $499.99 1 $499.99 x
Lexicon PCM Series Reverb Processing Sweetwater.com $1,999.99 1 $1,999.99 x
Lexicon MPX 1 Reverb Processing Sweetwater.com $699.99 1 $699.99 x
Lexicon 960 L Stereo Reverb Processing Sweetwater.com $11,500.00 2 $23,000.00 x
Aphex 323 Compellor/Aural Exciter Sweetwater.com $849.97 1 $849.97 x
dbx 1046 4 channel Compressor Sweetwater.com $499.97 2 $999.94 x
dbx 162SL Dual Channel Comp/Limiter Sweetwater.com $1,999.97 1 $1,999.97 x
dbx 1074 4 Channel Gate Sweetwater.com $499.97 4 $1,999.88 x
DEQ-830 Programmable Digital Graphic EQ Digital EQ Musiciansfriend.com $499.00 4 $1,996.00 x
DBX 160VU (Vintage) VU Compressor Vintage Compressor Sonic Circus $879.00 1 $879.00 x
Drawner DS 404 4 Channel Gate Sweetwater.com $1,079.00 1 $1,079.00 x
Recording Mediums & CPU Total $41,101.68
Item Description Price Quantity Total
Digi Design Protools HD Core Card Core Accelerator Card ebay $5,229.00 1 $5,229.00 x
Pro Tools HD Interface 192 I/O Interface ebay $1,325.00 1 $1,325.00 x
Pro Tools HD Interface 192 I/O Interface ebay $900.00 1 $900.00 x
Digi Design Custom KeyBoard Pro Tools Keyboard ebay $150.00 1 $150.00 x
Digi Design Midi I/O Midi Controller ebay $399.99 1 $399.99 x
RC-2424 Remote Control for MX-2424 Controller Musiciansfriend.com $1,369.99 1 $1,369.99 x
Tascam MX2424 Multitrack Recorder Musiciansfriend.com $3,999.99 2 $7,999.98 x
Digi Design Pre- 8 channel Mic Pre Preamp ebay $1,550.00 1 $1,550.00 x
Apple Cinema HD Display (30") Cinema Display Apple Store Online $2,999.00 1 $2,999.00 x
Mac G5 Package Computer Apple Store Online $3,194.00 1 $3,194.00 x
Pro Tools HD Interface 192 I/O Interface Sweetwater.com $3,995.00 1 $3,995.00 x
Digi Design 192 AD Expansion Card Sweetwater.com $1,295.00 1 $1,295.00 x
Focusrite ISA 428 Mic Preamp Sweetwater.com $1,699.97 2 $3,399.94 x
Earthworks 1024 Mic Preamp Sweetwater.com $2,999.97 2 $5,999.94 x
Amek Media 51, 48 Channel Frame Recording Console Sonic Circus $57,999.00 1 $57,999.00 x
Monitoring & Visual Total $97,805.84
Item Description Price Quantity Total
Tannoy System 600A (active) Nearfield Speakers Sweetwater.com $1,255.00 1 $1,255.00 x
Eggleston Works Isobel (active) Mains Metropolis-music.co.uk $5,310.50 1 $5,310.50 x
Sony 26" LCD WEGA™ Flat Panel TV Flat Screen for ISO Booths Sonystyle.com $2,299.99 3 $6,899.97 x
50” Plasma WEGA™ HDTV Cinema Display for Live & Cntrl Sonystyle.com $6,999.99 3 $20,999.97 x
Microphones Total $34,465.44
Item Description Price Quantity Total
Neuman TLM 127 Set Z Large Diaphram Condenser Sweetwater.com $1,949.00 10 $19,490.00 x
Neuman KM 184 Nickel Small Diaphram Condenser Sweetwater.com $729.99 10 $7,299.90 x
Sure SM57 Dynamic Musiciansfriend.com $89.00 20 $1,780.00 x
AEA R84 Ribbon Mic Sweetwater.com $1,000.00 4 $4,000.00 x
Sure Beta 52 Super Cardiod for Low End Sweetwater.com $189.97 10 $1,899.70 x
VINTAGE 1960's Dynamic Pill Microphone Vintage Dynamic ebay $127.50 1 $127.50 x
VINTAGE RUSSIAN TUBE CONDENSER MICROPHONE LOMO/AEG Vintage Condenser ebay $1,100.00 1 $1,100.00 x
T.H.E. BS-3D Binaural 3D Recording Sphere Binural Mic Mercenaryaudio.com $2,375.00 1 $2,375.00 x
Sennheiser MD 421 II Dynamic Cardiod Sweetwater.com $349.99 10 $3,499.90 x
Support Equipment & Mis. Total $41,572.00
Item Description Price Quantity Total
Furman HDS 16/HRM-16 Headphone Cue System Package Sonic Circus $2,249.00 2 $4,498.00 x
SRK 28-Space Rack 28 Unit Rack Musiciansfriend.com $179.99 5 $899.95 x
S100-M Monster Standard 100 Microphone Cable 30 ft Mic Cables Samash.com $39.95 60 $2,397.00 x
SB-11WE Studio Boom Stand Mic Stand Musiciansfriend.com $229.99 6 $1,379.94 x
SB96+ Studio Boom Stand Mic Stand Musiciansfriend.com $79.99 15 $1,199.85 x
PL-PlusD II Power Conditioner with Digital Volt Meter Power Conditioner Musiciansfriend.com $199.95 20 $3,999.00 x
TC Electronic System 6000 Mastering Sweetwater.com $6,499.97 1 $6,499.97 x
Neutrik 2X48 Bantam TT Patch Bay Normalled - Push Termi Patch Bay http://store.yahoo.com/ $779.82 10 $7,798.20 x
Countryman TYPE 85 Active Direct DI Box zZounds.com $149.95 8 $1,199.60 x
ATH-M30 Professional Monitor Headphones Studio Headphones Musiciansfriend.com $59.99 20 $1,199.80 x
CL3 Rated Multi-Pair Snake (12PR/30ft) Panel Snake Cable gigcables.com $42.00 2 $84.00 x
CL3 Rated Multi-Pair Snake (8PR/15ft) Panel Snake Cable gigcables.com $15.15 3 $45.45 x
"XLR Jacks on
WALL PLATES (4 input)" Mic Panel gigcables.com $20.75 2 $41.50 x
"XLR Jacks on
WALL PLATES (2 input)" Mic Panel gigcables.com $12.50 3 $37.50 x
"XLR Jacks on
WALL PLATES (6 input)" Mic Panel gigcables.com $28.50 5 $142.50 x
NERF MICRO TURBO FOOTBALL Studio Tension Suppressor Hashbro $1.99 20 $39.80 x
"Tiny Telephone (Bantam)
Balanced Patch 10''" Patch Cable gigcables.com $31.00 80 $2,480.00 x
Nady Pop Filter Pop Filter Musiciansfriend.com $12.99 10 $129.90 x
Total $34,071.96
Sub Total $249,016.92


Studio Construction
Item *Space (sqft) rough estimate Price ($175 sqft) Total
Control Room 320 $56,000.00 $56,000.00
Iso A 70 $12,250.00 $12,250.00
Iso B 49 $8,575.00 $8,575.00
Iso C 35 $6,125.00 $6,125.00
Live Room A 320 $56,000.00 $56,000.00
Machine Room 30 $5,250.00 $5,250.00
Storage 25 $4,375.00 $4,375.00
Live Room B 196 $34,300.00 $34,300.00
Office Construction Total $182,875.00
Item Space (sqft) Price ($50 sqft) Total
Main Office & Reception 800 $40,000.00 $40,000.00
Total $40,000.00
Sub Total $222,875.00
Final total $471,891.92
 
Thats scary to think anyone would want or try and build that studio. Looks like some kid just copied and pasted a bunch of crap form all sorts of places for fun. I put together a list that was considerably nicer than that and cost quite a bit less for a client of mine. There is a lot of mismatched and redundant gear in that list.
 
What the hell would you do with ten of the same microphone?
 
rapedbyape said:
What the hell would you do with ten of the same microphone?
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it would go well with his 10 pop filters
 
I also just noticed that he only has a 4 input wall panel. How will you run 10 mics?
 
So to take this back to the question at hand. I think the previous post is a testament to show that more expensive is not always better... Good luck with your studio pusha, and let us know if we can help.
 
;) Nice job guys



You misunderstood the post. A mock set up is just for that, it's a planning phase. The actual setup runs alot more than that.

Redudant, maybe; uncommon, not at all. It was an example to share. Anyway, not important.


Track Pusha:

Whats the goal with the studio?
 
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