yeah, i just tracked it in my neighbor's (bless his heart) living room live with guys in other room and amps and such isolated/bass di. some ok mic's, some not so ok pres, and some good luck. the huge kick sound came a good bit from the room mic which was consequently down the hallway set to hypercardiod...i just kinda goofed around with placement until i got the lobe on the rear to pick up a little of the drums direct and the larger portion of the sound from the slapping off the wall in the bathroom, which is wooden shelving everywhere with wood floors. a little eq at 50 and 5k fed into an ssl g series comp plug 4:1 just catching the transients enough to bring up the room with the attack set to let just a little bit of the smack thru. but you are definately right. there is way to much limiting. i had the compressor on the 2 bus set pretty moderate...2:1 30 ms, only about 3 db of reduction. but i just couldn't get the volume without it sounding like shit. mastering engineers are from another planet. if anyone wants to take a whack at mastering it, let me know. i can send files or whatever you want...a six pack. you name it.