erichenryus said:
and the best part about this thread is that everyone is disagreeing! i'm getting sick of everyone always saying how much everything sounds 'radio ready' and everything is the greatest thing they've ever heard, etc. etc. etc.
LOL...you haven't read many of my threads, have you?
Guys, don't get me wrong. If the President of Sony Records came to me and said, "Hey, great song...I'd release it if it weren't for the autotune," you'd see the fastest remix in the history of homerecording, lmao. I'm not some kind of martyr for my "art," lol. I mean, I do hope that Tom recognizes that I'm all for getting the vocal right from the start...in fact, if you DON'T get it right, and then use autotune, it really DOES sound like shit to my ears. But when it makes that instant pitch change, I dunno', I like it. Some people use pitch shifters/harmonizers for vocal and/or guitar parts (Of course, the original has to be in tune too for it to work), and I really don't like the sound of "fake" harmonies, but it's one of the coolest things about homerecording to me...to be able to do what you want (within reason).
Then main thing to me is that everyone seems to have picked up on the fact that this is a cool song...the heart of the matter, really...and I respectfully reserve the right to fuck it up in any way I so choose, lol... but if Jamal didn't like the autotune sound, trust me, it'd be gone. I've never disagreed with Sam on anything in the past
D), but I'm in Kramer's camp on this one ...
There's really nothing to argue about. I mean, if I'd overcompressed the guitars and Tom told me so, I think he knows that there'd be a new version up in about :20 minutes.
(In fact, it was erichenryus' comments that encouraged me to kill the sawtooth vibrato...I mean, shit...if you think THIS sounds sine-like ...lol.) I knew I'd catch grief for the effect, and it's fine because I know that those of you who truly hate the sound wouldn't just SAY that to get under my skin... You hate it. I understand, and I respect that, and it's not my goal to convert anybody, lol. I probably should have posted a clean version so I could get some other mix comments, but it's incredibly hard for me to do 2 versions because of the timing involved. To make the AT work for me, I have to sing a little in front of the beat in those parts, and it sounds off w/o it.
Anyway, I hope all of you know that I don't think I'm above criticism...far from it. The "Newbie" under my name is there for a reason. Some things are just preferential, and you're not gonna' change my mind about it any more than I'm gonna' change yours,
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It's a cool song that Jamal wrote, and you guys are tops for caring enough to argue, LOL.
Sincere thanks,
Chris
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