Most Overrated/Overpriced Electric Guitars

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Most Overrated/Overpriced Electric Guitars?

  • Gibson

    Votes: 289 51.9%

  • Fender

    Votes: 93 16.7%

  • Gretsch

    Votes: 38 6.8%

  • Parker

    Votes: 38 6.8%

  • PRS

    Votes: 160 28.7%

  • G&L

    Votes: 17 3.1%

  • Epiphone

    Votes: 32 5.7%

  • Rickenbacker

    Votes: 49 8.8%
  • Total voters
    557
SuperCreep - what are you talking about? I have not suggested that a good item cannot be had for less than any particular price. If you want the best, you have to pay for the best. That's the only economics of the situation.

You freely admit that the best are more difficult to manufacture, and that to the trained ear they may sound better. Not to mention the increased playability of a superbly crafted instrument. Yet you will tell someone to their face that they are stupid for being willing to pay for the best? Talk to me about cogent, cos that just ain't it.
 
noisedude said:
SuperCreep - what are you talking about? I have not suggested that a good item cannot be had for less than any particular price. If you want the best, you have to pay for the best. That's the only economics of the situation.

You freely admit that the best are more difficult to manufacture, and that to the trained ear they may sound better. Not to mention the increased playability of a superbly crafted instrument. Yet you will tell someone to their face that they are stupid for being willing to pay for the best? Talk to me about cogent, cos that just ain't it.
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That's kind of like what I said. And as you have noted, I'm quite possibly wrong in all of this. However, while the best may be more difficult to manufacture, it dosen't follow that the more difficult it is (or expensive) to manufacture something, the better it is. Foo laid me low on the violin bow aspect - I had no worldly idea that a violin bow could be worth 2k, and still can't hear the difference, at least I don't think I can. A superbly crafted instrument dosen't have to cost 100k.
 
I'm glad to see someone started this thread. I played a Gibson Explorer when I was about 12 (20 years ago) and always wanted one. Unfortunately I could never get one and now they are at least $1000. To top it off if I got one now everyone would think I'm a James Hetfield wannabe. (love the heavy metal)
Nobody believes you when you say you wanted one before they were cool.
 
Supercreep - for what it's worth, I mostly agree with you. I just don't want to say there's no point and no difference above a certain price point, only to find out that I don't know shit! I would never do justice to a solid gold flute, or a PRS guitar come to that. If someone can hear a difference, let them pay what they are willing for the improvement.

I'm sure there's an aspect of it that's anthropomorphic too, a bit like sports cars ... :)
 
Supercreep said:
. . . But as you say, if only the master can hear the difference, that's difference enough. . .
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When I was at GIT, Robben Ford came and did a workshop.

He brought his own guitar, but ran it into a 2 x 12" Lab Series amp.
A real crappy piece of equipment.

He sounded just like Robben Ford. (Duh!)

But Robben wasn't happy with his sound, as he was used to playing through a Boogie.

As you say - if the master can tell the difference, that's difference enough.
 
foo said:
When I was at GIT, Robben Ford came and did a workshop.

He brought his own guitar, but ran it into a 2 x 12" Lab Series amp.
A real crappy piece of equipment.

He sounded just like Robben Ford. (Duh!)

But Robben wasn't happy with his sound, as he was used to playing through a Boogie.

As you say - if the master can tell the difference, that's difference enough.
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Actually, he plays through a Dumble.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
Kinda a useless poll. Over rated and price are all relative. Most people that voted for gibson probably can't afford one, same with PRS Ric Fender etc. Too many of these silly posts floating around the net lately. Not sure why Epiphone was added to this list unless you are referring to their elitist models. May as well have added the Fender MIM standards and squires as well.
There is a reason that Gibsons and Fenders have been the choice of profesionals for the past 50 years or so!

Also to the original poster that refused to add ESP to this list....have you checked out their prices lately on thier higher end stuff ??????

Bottom line is, if you wanna dish out 500.00 for a guitar, that's exactly what you're gonna get, a 500.00 guitar. You wanna dish out 2K for a guitar, well that's what you'll get also. There is no right or wrong regarding this topic, you get what you pay for, the choice is yours.


Gabriel
 
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Light said:
Actually, he plays through a Dumble.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
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Yes he does.



Now.



But not in 1979 when I saw him at the Baked Potato on Lankershim Blvd in Los Angeles.
 
foo said:
Yes he does.



Now.



But not in 1979 when I saw him at the Baked Potato on Lankershim Blvd in Los Angeles.
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AHHH!


I guess I just didn't know you were OLD!! :D :D :D



Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
You guys are disturbing my nap! Robben...Robben Ford...what ever happened to that kid, anyway?
 
Gabriel_0 said:
Kinda a useless poll. Over rated and price are all relative. Most people that voted for gibson probably can't afford one, same with PRS Ric Fender etc. Too many of these silly posts floating around the net lately. Not sure why Epiphone was added to this list unless you are referring to their elitist models. May as well have added the Fender MIM standards and squires as well.
There is a reason that Gibsons and Fenders have been the choice of profesionals for the past 50 years or so!

Also to the original poster that refused to add ESP to this list....have you checked out their prices lately on thier higher end stuff ??????

Bottom line is, if you wanna dish out 500.00 for a guitar, that's exactly what you're gonna get, a 500.00 guitar. You wanna dish out 2K for a guitar, well that's what you'll get also. There is no right or wrong regarding this topic, you get what you pay for, the choice is yours.


Gabriel
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Not exactly true, as you can put together an AAAA quilted maple paul-style guitar with upgraded pups, binding, ebony fretboard, upgraded tuners, inlay etc. at Warmouth or other replacement outlets for WAY less than a stock LP.
 
Overpriced is anything cool that I can't afford to buy.

SoMm
 
Supercreep said:
Not exactly true, as you can put together an AAAA quilted maple paul-style guitar with upgraded pups, binding, ebony fretboard, upgraded tuners, inlay etc. at Warmouth or other replacement outlets for WAY less than a stock LP.
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No, you can't. Those would all have bolt on necks, and bolt ons are, sonically, nothing like a Les Paul. It might look similar, but it is NOT the same.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
Light said:
No, you can't. Those would all have bolt on necks, and bolt ons are, sonically, nothing like a Les Paul. It might look similar, but it is NOT the same.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
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Ahhhh.....so!


:o

How different?
 
VERY different, thats one of the things on a guitar that will make the biggest difference in sound.
 
Light said:
AHHH!


I guess I just didn't know you were OLD!! :D :D :D



Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
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No I'm not - I was only 2 when my Dad took me to see him!

:rolleyes:
 
I'd say $2000 for a charvel Eddie Van Halen model is the biggest rip I have seen in a while. 1 pickup, and a bolt on neck. 1 knob. stupid.
 
Supercreep said:
Ahhhh.....so!


:o

How different?
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A bolted/screwed on neck only has 4 places for the vibrations to translate from the neck to body or the other way since they interact together. There is also a fretting plane where the neck and body join which is really lousy for load transfer back anf forth. So the result is less sustain, thinner tone and weaker joint. A bolt on you can actually bump the neck and cause the joint to malform enough that the angularity changes. The good thing about bolt on is cheapness to build and repair if you willing to sacrifice some sonic character.

SoMm
 
I disagree, you're not sacrificing tone with a bolt on. You will never get tons of sustain, but if sustain was all that was important we'd all be playing les pauls. You can't get that strat "quack" or twang from a set neck, and I'm sure tons of people would agree with me that bolt-on guitars suit many kinds of music better.
 
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