Mixing Clinic Reviewer Guidelines

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chrisharris said:
Well, hang on. I just saw his review of a new thread.

Much more helpful.

Turned a new leaf, has he? I read it too. Ever heard of the game called cat and mouse?
 
good thread Slack, good advice. I don't get upset when someone slams my tunz in the rude way. I just go to my basement and cry until I get over it. he he eh ehe heheheh eh eh eyhhehheh e
 
Re: Re: Mixing Clinic Reviewer Guidelines

If you critiqued people in the "real world" the way you do on the net you would be toting a new asswhooping every day huh.
 
Re: Sticky Mixing Clinic

Man, you're supposed to wash up first...:eek:
 
Listen up guys, my post doesn't tell you how to constructively critique a mix. Bruce, you're right, people should expect criticism. You're also right on your last point, that you would never make an issue of "artistic merit". See, it's pretty much common sense.

You tell someone to "set all faders to 0" or to give up on music or anything of the sort and you will hear from me. That is why AC and SC were banned.

Critic guy, you were initially just warned via PM. Then the next day this "amazing_critic" shows up, and still no response from you. At that time I decided to ban both of your accounts, or just your accounts if you're the same person. I wasn't going to wait around while you (or the two of you) blew out another collective 75 posts in 48 hours and started flame wars in who knows how many threads.

I'm not going to ban you now for coming back, let's just keep our comments productive in this forum. If you can't do this while expressing yourself, then it's your problem, not everyone elses.

Slackmaster 2000
 
crawdad said:
Ever heard of the game called cat and mouse?
Yeah, but...lol; I called him a cumfunnel before I saw it. I think I'm going for the "positive reinforcement" approach, lol.
 
Can I add a serious note to this thread?

Well I'm gonna anyway. :)

Where does the "level" of one's ability come into play in this? IOW, what standards are we judging ourselves by?

For ex., if I told you my daughter was able to stay within the lines in her coloring book, some of you might say that was great. When I admitted that she's 25 years old, you might feel "great" was a bit of an overstatement. Staying within the lines is great for a 3 year old; not so great for a 25 year old.

So, is the standard we use here a "professionally recorded, mixed and mastered song?" If so, I think we all have been a bit generous in our comments over the years. However, if the standard is a piece of music created in a basement by a hobbyist who had to play all the instruments himself, all while doing their own recording, mixing and mastering, than I think we have some of the best caliber people around.

I don't mind being held up to professional standards - even though that's not what I am, or even striving to be. But it does give me a yardstick to compare myself against. The problem is that when someone comments on your mix, you really don't know what standard they are using.

BTW, I don't have the answer to any of this. Just some fuel for thought. What standard do we/should we hold ourselves up to? And how do we allow for/encourage those just starting out?
 
"But I don't think putting-up critiquing rules (and Slack, I realize that's not what you're doing here, but that would be the next step!) would make the slightest difference."

I have to disagree with something in what you said here, Bruce. Slack actually banned somebody here. That makes what Slack says a rule. This ain't democracy.

I think three things: first, Supercritic's an arsehole. Just dumping on people's attempts, and not ante-ing up himself. Cutting farts and accusing other people of smelling. Arsehole, in other words.

Second, this is no worse than goes on in other forums. Okay, okay, this clinic is kinda special, and people take emotional *risks* putting stuff up here, and compassion rules. But still and all, rude and provocative posts are part of this bbs.

Finally, this issue could be handled better than banning people right off the bat. Can you remember how long Dragon put up with that other arsehole who was spamming this place before he finally banned him? What was his name... ah! Scott Stambaugh. Yeah, that's the arsehole. Anyway, Dragon was the opposite of a tyrant, and I respect him for it. He had faith in the ability of this board to sort out most of its problems without resorting to policing, although in the end Scott Stambaugh absolutely and insistently forced his hand.

You haven't got even near Dragon, Slack.

Do I get banned now?
 
Damn you're being a prick dobro.

Notice how super critic is back now? Golly.

I banned him because there were TWO GUYS *before* I banned anyone who were seriously disrupting threads in the clinic at an enormous rate: over 70 posts in two days. I initially did just warn him (still not convinced it's a them, but that's what the IP's say).

Now he's back, and that's fine...as long as he keeps the out of line shit to a minimum.

And as far as the father time shit, read the BBS rules and you'll find scott's name there.....do I do anything to enforce that rule? No. Reefer is DJ'FINGAZ. Have I done anything about that? No.

The banning of SC was done to solve an immediate problem.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Yeah, like your helpful answer to the guy who asked how he should mix his song. Your reply was to move all the faders levels down to 0 so it couldn't be heard.


Hahahaha!!! THat is cruel but........funny! Shame on you!!



I will agree aboot the excess of "gushy" critiques. Sometimes I'll hear something that sounds pretty bad, both recording-wise and music-wise, and yet I'll see fifty people coming back with, "This is great, man." I just can't imagine that it's all that helpful to the artist to hear nothing but positive replies, while they're still putting out extremely amateur material.


I'm expecting most posters have acclimated to the "praise inflation" that occurs in here. When somebody calls something great it just means they didn't screw it up, not that it's the 2nd coming of "Bohemian Rhapsody". In addition i think people know in their own minds truly where they stand. No one's opinions about the recordings truly change based on comments from others, but it does change the way we feel about others in personal terms. If you made something great, you feel it. And if it sucks you know it, but sharing is fun and educational.

I think we (usually) turn the knob towards the polite end of the dial because it makes for better neighbors.
 
"Hell,... I'm my biggest critic around here.... not to mention that I still haven't been able to convince anyone that I can't sing."

WATYF


You can`t, and we are convinced. But it sure do sound good man! :)
 
Khompewtur said:
I'm expecting most posters have acclimated to the "praise inflation" that occurs in here.

Yeah, it took me a minute to get over that. But it was a worthwhile exercise. Really. It's an ill wind that blows NO good (I'll wait for a minute while y'all write that down).:D

Even Bohemian Rhapsody had its detractors ("pretentious load o' crap", I seem to remember), there's no way the world's gonna be all sweetness and light if we ever bring our stuff outta the clinic. Even if it's really good, but especially if it's not.

Take yer lumps, people. Part of paying our dues...

Blind Melon Daffy
 
Even Bohemian Rhapsody had its detractors ("pretentious load o' crap", I seem to remember)

Well anybody that said that bout Bohemian is making themselves look like a moron


But to placate the masses .. i shall change this line to read


"When somebody calls something great it just means they didn't screw it up, not that it's the 2nd coming of *____________.






* Insert name of song you think is really good here.
 
But the point is:

There is NO song that floats EVERYONE's boat. Not one.*

NOT that there's anything wrong with BR...

* - Actually, track 6, Hot Shot City, IS especially good
 
Yes i understood that Daf. I was asking each indivdual who reads it to insert their own personal choice.


I'm not even a Bohemian Rhapsody zealot myself, I just threw something I thought would suffice to complete my analogy.


To address a different angle though, I do wonder if there is a point where you can recognize that something was done well even if it doesn't float your boat.

I always hear and read that "Pet Sounds" was a great album. I can't stand the beach boys but I can still not like their music and recognize that they were doing something special.
 
Khompewtur said:
To address a different angle though, I do wonder if there is a point where you can recognize that something was done well even if it doesn't float your boat.
Sure you can.... I don't generally listen to RAP on a regular basis, but I can easily judge the overall sound quality and mix balance of a track!
 
dafduc said:
* - Actually, track 6, Hot Shot City, IS especially good

Sigh. What's the point of brilliant asides if nobody ever picks up on them...:(
 
I prefer ultra-lights myself..
 

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fucking dopeheads.......




oh wait, that wasnt constructive......

maybe some of us would be more rooted in reality if we didnt fill our brain with mind altering drugs........





(now pass the shit already....)
 
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